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Old 08-30-2012, 07:40 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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29% of New Caledonians and 11% of French Polynesians are of European descent. For anyone who's been or has any idea, I'm curious to know how 'French' they are culturally. Would you compare them to Australians and New Zealanders, or perhaps Falkland Islands to the UK?
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:40 AM
 
Location: Paris, France
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I understand you can divide the "French" population in New Caledonia between native-born islanders that are descended from French settlers in the colonial era (the Caldoches) and more recent migrants from metropolitan France.

I gather the Caldoches are a sort of Francophone version of the outback Australian or Afrikaner.

The more recent migrants are probably like any other French expat community round the world - they eat baguettes and drink coffee at pavement cafes, fly back to Paris all the time, and look to "la France metropolitain" for all sources of culture, news, entertainment etc.
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Old 09-09-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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Is there any reason why you did not include the island of Reunion in the Southwest Indian Ocean near Madagascar and Mauritius?

I also wondered how French the people are in French Polynesia, Reunion, and New Caledonia and how culturally connected those places are to Metropolitan mainland France.

They appear to be such fascinating places to visit to see how they are for that, but for other reasons too.

It is surprising and unprecedented that they are still “overseas collectivities and territories” of France and not separate nations.

I don’t expect them to be nearly as authentically French as mainland France, or even Corsica. Quebec Province of Canada is probably more culturally French than those islands.

Reunion has 840,000 people, French Polynesia has 267,000, and New Caledonia 252,000 people. They are islands with a significant population. They appear to have mixed ethnic demographics, but definitely has at least some French influence, such as the official language there for one example, and a significant percentage of people with European heritage.

The vast majority of tourism those islands get is probably from Metropolitan mainland France people, but I imagine tourism is getting a bit more popular for people from other countries.

Those islands connections to France is probably not as directly connected as Hawaii is to the USA.

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Old 09-09-2012, 10:18 AM
 
Location: In the heights
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There are also the French Caribbean possessions, though I suppose those might be less interesting being less isolated.
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Old 09-09-2012, 02:55 PM
 
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I don’t expect them to be nearly as authentically French as mainland France, or even Corsica. Quebec Province of Canada is probably more culturally French than those islands.
I disagree, Reunion is much closer to mainland France than Quebec culturally.
Except for few things, they share the same products and cultural things that the inhabitants of Paris.
It is not the case of the Quebecers who are clearly North American and have much in common with California than with France.

You also have to define what is "authentically French". Even in mainland France there are variation between Region.

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Those islands connections to France is probably not as directly connected as Hawaii is to the USA.
I don't see why they wouldn't.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I disagree, Reunion is much closer to mainland France than Quebec culturally.
Except for few things, they share the same products and cultural things that the inhabitants of Paris.
It is not the case of the Quebecers who are clearly North American and have much in common with California than with France.
Québécois are similar to Californians? Really?

Not saying they are exactly like people in France (more like a mix between France and the U.S.), but...

My kids have a Larousse and a Bescherelle in their school bag, they have Shy'm, Inna Modja, Manau and Ella Ella and Voyage Voyage on their iPods, they read Astérix, Tintin, Lucky Luke and Mélusine, they know Samantha Oups.... Not exactly everyday stuff in California.
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:31 AM
 
Location: Montreal > Quebec > Canada
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It is not the case of the Quebecers who are clearly North American and have much in common with California than with France.
Just like the French have much more in commun with Ukranians than with the Québécois, of course. lol
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Old 09-10-2012, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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We had elections in Quebec just a week ago and after the televised debate I heard a lot of people complaining and asking why it couldn't be as good as the debate between François Hollande and Nicolas Sarkozy...
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:49 AM
 
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There are also the French Caribbean possessions, though I suppose those might be less interesting being less isolated.
That is true there is also the French Caribbean islands such as Martinique, Guadeloupe, and the South American territory of French Guiana. They also have a similar significant population size.

I easily prefer the French Pacific Ocean, and Indian Ocean islands (Reunion, French Polynesia, and New Caledonia), and find them more fascinating and intriguing than the Caribbean/South American parts (Martinique, Guadeloupe, and French Guiana). However, those are interesting too and I would like to know more about them.

Other than Reunion, the island of Mayotte was not mentioned yet. That is another island technically part of France in the Southwest Indian Ocean near Mauritius, Madagascar, Comoros, Mozambique.
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Old 09-11-2012, 10:51 AM
 
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I disagree, Reunion is much closer to mainland France than Quebec culturally.
Except for few things, they share the same products and cultural things that the inhabitants of Paris.
It is not the case of the Quebecers who are clearly North American and have much in common with California than with France.

You also have to define what is "authentically French". Even in mainland France there are variation between Region.

I don't see why they wouldn't.
I already know France has a lot of variation between regions, including within Metropolitan Mainland France.

I just can’t see how the island of Reunion is much closer to France culturally than the Quebec Province of Canada for plenty of reasons.

There is no way that the Quebecois people have much more in common with California than with France, so that appears to be a false statement.

Quebec is equally connected to Canada, France, and Northeast/Midwest parts of the USA, and is a blend of those 3 regions. It is not connected to the Western USA nearly as much as those other 3 regions.
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