Are bad urban areas in Western Europe as dangerous as urban areas in America? (crime rates, home)

[LunaticVillage]

I've never been to Europe. The media makes Americans want to believe that the big cities in Western Europe in countries like the United Kingdom and France are infinitely safer than the urbanized areas in the States. We are told that gun violence is much more epidemic in big American cities. Is this really true? Can anyone come up with valid statistical comparisons between American cities and Western European cities like Paris and London in terms of crime and safety? Is there a major city as bad as Baltimore or Detroit in all of Western Europe?

[rogead]

Marseilles has a bad reputation for crime. Here is an English translation of a story from a newspaper there:
GalliaWatch: Crime in Marseilles

[paull805]

You'll get ''dodgy'' cities and areas of cities like Sofia in Bulgaria, Moscow, Hackney in London, Moss Side in Manchester, Easterhouse in Glasgow, parts of Marseilles, parts of Naples in Italy, areas in Warsaw, Belgrade etc but none as dangerous as Detroit anyway.

[LunaticVillage]

I'm too lazy to look it up right now, but I remember reading somewhere that many areas in England have a higher assault rate than most places in America. Also, I read that stabbing deaths are more common in Britain than shooting deaths, obviously. An article I read stated something along the lines that you are more likely to get beat up at a pub in England than be shot in the streets of a major American city. But I also guess you are much more likely to get beat up in a bar in America than be shot outside of it.

[cmptrwlt]

Crime Mapping

19 Sep 2012 - 25 Sep 2012 - New Orleans: 3 murders (10 so far this month)

[GER308]

Hell South of Market in San Diego is worse than anywhere in Berlin, Fankfurt, Hamburg, London, Barcelona, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Brussels, Prauge any other western european city.

[dunno what to put here]

No, they are definitely not.

[LunaticVillage]

Originally Posted by GER308

Hell South of Market in San Diego is worse than anywhere in Berlin, Fankfurt, Hamburg, London, Barcelona, Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Brussels, Prauge any other western european city.

I suspected as much. America has the greatest income inequality gap in the developed world. In big cities like New York and San Francisco, you have people who are millionaires, and even billionaires, living within less than a mile radius of people who have an annual income of 10K a year. Racial and economic segregation is also very intense in America. Although Blacks only make up 12% of the total U.S. population, impoverished Black people make up roughly 90% of Detroit and over 60% of Baltimore. Also, America has much more guns per capita than anywhere in the world at 90 guns per 100 people. Although Yemen takes the cake of most gun murders per capita for an entire country, the average American inner city has comparable violent crime rates as the worst of the worst places in Latin America and the Middle East.

[Trimac20]

Glasgow was pretty bad for violence. I'm not sure how it stacks up against American cities though.

[ben86]

A few years back a politician over here compared Moss Side in south Manchester (one of the most notorious neighbourhoods in a city the media used to call 'Gunchester' with Baltimore and got quite a bit of criticism for it, which is fair considering the statistics:

STATISTICS suggest that Greater Manchester and Baltimore are two very different places.

The east coast American city, home to about 600,000, was blighted by 234 murders last year. That compares to 35 in Greater Manchester, which has a population of around 2.5m.

Of the Baltimore killings, 191 involved a gun whereas here, none were gun-related, despite two happening this year.

Grayling's comments on Moss Side condemned | Manchester Evening News - menmedia.co.uk