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View Poll Results: More like Asia or Europe?
Asia 16 35.56%
Europe 17 37.78%
Neither 12 26.67%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-10-2012, 09:25 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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The countries of Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Caucasian Russia and Turkey.

Do they seem to have more affinity with Asia: the Middle East and Central Asia, or Eastern Europe?

I'd say Georgia seems closer to Russia and Eastern Europe, whereas Armenia and Azerbaijan seem more Middle Eastern and slightly Central Asian. Armenia may be Christian but they seem more like Turks or Iranians genetically and culturally.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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Are you talking geographically, or culturally, or ethnically?
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:49 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Are you talking geographically, or culturally, or ethnically?
Culturally/ethnically
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Old 10-11-2012, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Paris, France
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I'd say Europe...just. Except Azerbaijan, they are Christian. It's green and rainy, unlike the hot dry Middle East. They participate in the Eurovision song contest.

However, I don't think it's really helpful to think of "Asia" as a coherant unit ethnically/culturally in the same way you can with Europe, Africa etc. The various components of "Asia" (Middle East, former USSR, Indian subcontinent...) are so different as to have almost nothing in common. Turkey and Iran are much "closer" to Egypt or Romania than they are to Japan. Somewhere like the Caucasus - that sits on the faultlines of four great civilisations (Russian Orthodox, Arab, Turkish and Persian) is always going to cause confusion.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:15 AM
 
Location: Florida
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I'd say Europe...just. Except Azerbaijan, they are Christian.
Azerbaijani are Muslims, Georgians and Armenians are Christians (with some exceptions).

I personally don't think of them as Europeans - they have a very strong Middle Eastern mentality and culture as a result of Ottoman and Persian domination for centuries.


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Old 10-13-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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The countries of Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Caucasian Russia and Turkey.

Do they seem to have more affinity with Asia: the Middle East and Central Asia, or Eastern Europe?

I'd say Georgia seems closer to Russia and Eastern Europe, whereas Armenia and Azerbaijan seem more Middle Eastern and slightly Central Asian. Armenia may be Christian but they seem more like Turks or Iranians genetically and culturally.

Ethnically they are more european side than middle eastern or central asian (except for Turkey which has heavily influenced central asian genetics), but culturally they all are more akin to central asian societies rather than easter european ones.
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Old 10-17-2012, 01:23 PM
 
Location: Kharkiv, Ukraine
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Azerbaijanians and Turks it is nearly one nation, Georgians are close to Arabs, and Armenians culturological (not ethnically) - to Jews. As a whole the Caucasian people haven't enough of general with Europeans.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:43 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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They're Eurasians, wahahaha!

Well, technically, if you want to get down with a magnifying glass and examine each nationality (there are an amazing number of them in a relatively small geographic area), there are all kinds. Some are Turkic-speaking. Some (like the Georgians, and the Chechens) are indigenous to the region. Some are basically Indo-European (Armenians, Alans, Ossetians). Anyway, it's a bit of an ethnic hodgepodge. So...paint it as a sort of checkerboard. How did an entire "race" of people, "Caucasians", get named after a region that's such an intercontinental, inter-ethnic mix, anyway? Whose stroke of genius was that? (sarcasm)

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Old 10-29-2012, 12:50 PM
 
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Caucasus can be seen as its separate entity. Geographically, the South Caucasus is in West Asia, but not necessarily in Middle East. The reason why this region is not placed in the Middle East is that there's a substantial difference between the Arab dominated Middle East and the South Caucasus. Same can be said in comparison of Turkey and the rest of the Middle East.

South Caucasus isn't Europe either, only politically (Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan are part of Council of Europe and eligible to be EU members). Genetically, the region clusters with folks near it like Turks, Kurds, and Assyrians, which is expected. Culturally, with Georgians you have Caucasian culture, with Armenians you have an ancient Christian culture that can been seen has Anatolian-Caucasian, and Azeris have a Turkic/Persian culture. So even within South Caucasus it's very diverse. Armenians speak Indo-European language, Georgians speak Caucasian language, Azeris speak Altaic language. Armenians in terms of linguistics, culture, and history and closest to Persians. Azeris are closest to Turks. And Georgians are closest to North Caucasus people like Chechens.

Historically, there have been some ties with Europe, but not very significant to make them European. Though even with all this, Georgia and Armenia have chosen to integrate with Europe. 100 years of Soviet rule has helped South Caucasus to be more "European" and standout from the rest of the middle east.

Asia is extremely diverse. South Caucasus is just another region of the vast Asia. Though I think South Caucasus can be seen more as "Eurasian" - a hybrid between Europe and Asia - not really Middle East, but not Europe either.

Just my 2 cents.
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Old 10-29-2012, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Cumberland County, NJ
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I combination of both culturally and ethnically.
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