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Old 12-16-2012, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Westminster, London
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Not that we're in much better shape here...

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Old 12-16-2012, 05:41 PM
 
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It really does depend on where you live, London for example people are exposed (to some what) to asian culture. Though when teens get all fussed with anime it kinda makes me sick, the way people act are asian influenced I can't really explain its mainly in schools. Your have white, black and south asians taking a interest to asians...

I thought this was stupid but now....


GANGNAM STYLE....
He lives on a faraway island, in the deep blue sea, separated from the rest of the world. The only connection to civilization he has over there are few airplanes that stop by on their way to Moscow, and even that is seasonal...
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Old 12-16-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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What we deem attractive generally changes towards whatever culture or strata becomes the most economically powerful, so maybe.
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Old 12-17-2012, 01:15 PM
 
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I'm not sure why you think Asian culture is a new trend now. Anime is not a new thing(the first Anime Expo was launched in 1991) and Chinese cinema has been popular amogst western consumers for decades, going all the way back to HK originated Bruce Lee films. There have been Chinese movie stars who made their way to Hollywood (Jet Li, Chow Yun-fat, Jackie Chan, etc) . As for K-pop stars, other than Asians (who live in Asia or elsewhere in the world) they are vastly unknown. Some people in west know K-pop, but beyond that nobody really pays attention to it (with the exception of "gangnam style" which would not have been popular without the youtube video of a chubby Asian guy doing a silly horsey dance). Just take an example of SNSD debuting in US, their album never sold more than a little over 1,000 copies in a first week.
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Old 12-17-2012, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I don't know; perhaps in time. The k-pop espoused male ideal is sort of an analogue/mixture of "glam" and "metrosexual" styles:




Both styles have, or have had, a presence in the US and I don't necessarily see why it couldn't come into the mainstream at some point. I mean, from the late 70's to the early 90's, the most conventionally "manly" musicians used more hairspray and makeup than their girlfriends, and the metrosexual trend made it acceptable for guys to use facial products, get manicures, etc... so, the groundwork is there.

This said, even when I go to a heavily Asian area here in the US (the San Gabriel Valley, San Francisco, etc), most of the Asian-American guys you'll see and meet are much more "American" in the way they dress... if you see a guy wearing acid washed jeans with orangey-colored hair with three silver chains and a black leather vest over a fitted, ribbed long-sleeved shirt, you think to yourself, "FOB." Asian-American guys tend to dress pretty much like non-Asian American guys, and for the most part, Asian-American girls tend to go for guys who dress in a more conventional (i.e., masculine-ish) fashion as well, so I don't necessarily see it gaining a foothold any time soon. I mean, we've had pretty-boy boybands in pop music for some time now, and their "style" has never really bled into how any guys dress in real life outside of areas like the Castro and West Hollywood.

I was in a relationship with a Vietnamese-American girl for about a year who was 20 at the time and had grown up in San Jose. She listened to k-pop and j-pop as well as American and Vietnamese music, and the screen on her phone was some male k-pop idol. However, when she told me that she wanted to "dress me" and we went to the mall... I left with Levi's, a pair of Asics, a commando sweater, and a Guess peacoat; basically no deviation from how I normally dress aside from the fact that the Asics were purple leather with blue plaid... not anything I'd normally think to buy or wear.
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:05 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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Ha I thought fob was London slang!
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Old 12-17-2012, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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Ha I thought fob was London slang!
The English term "fob" and the "fob" that Asian-Americans use to describe Asians from Asia is different... in the latter, it's an acronym for "Fresh Off Boat," meaning that they're an immigrant who probably acts in a very obviously Asian/foreign fashion, dresses awkwardly by American standards, etc. For instance, you'd hear someone say, "yeah, that restaurant is really good, but it's always filled with fob's," or "she's really cute but she dresses like a fob," or "that whole neighborhood is so fobby."

Here's a blog about it...
http://mymomisafob.com/
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:05 AM
 
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Trimac, were you teased as a child? You don't seem very comfortable with yourself.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:08 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Trimac, were you teased as a child? You don't seem very comfortable with yourself.
Only a few times, but yeah I've suffered low esteem throughout my life.
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Old 12-18-2012, 06:24 AM
 
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Yeah it's gone overboard, but a broader question I want to ask is why is feminine so bad?
it's not necessarily bad. gay men love feminine men.

if it's women you want to attract, however, it typically helps to look more masculine.
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