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Old 12-28-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: southern california
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most americans fancy they can learn any language easily if they have a mind to.
this is sheer y generation ego.
go for the most simple and will will have to work much harder than planned. .
isolation from your mother tongue and english speakers and 14 hours of class and study per day is not fun but necessary.
i would suggest spanish.
most are not willing to make this sort of investment in themselves so acquisition is poor among americans.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:04 PM
 
Location: Vladivostok, Russia
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most americans fancy they can learn any language easily if they have a mind to.
Yet most really failed to learn English.

Did Americans (not including immigrants) always sucked so much in English? In Russia I see massive deterioration in Russian language - and it's getting worse each decade.
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Yet most really failed to learn English.

Did Americans (not including immigrants) always sucked so much in English? In Russia I see massive deterioration in Russian language - and it's getting worse each decade.
It's a cultural thing of the 20th century, 100 years ago Americans were fantastically adept at the English language and had great vocabulary and grammar. Just look at the school curriculum from that time period or any of the works of literature its people produced. Also, do not confuse the now mellowing regional variations in English from that period as evidence that people were bad at English. They just spoke a variety of dialects during previous times which have been mellowing to simple accent differences, most of which are now less pronounced then they once were (but which are much stronger than people who haven't been to America and only know it from TV tend to assume).
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Old 12-28-2012, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Vladivostok, Russia
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Just look at the school curriculum from that time period or any of the works of literature its people produced.
There are two problems:

1. Education wasn't universal yet, I guess.
2. Classical literature doesn't really represent anything.

If we take the intellectual elite - they look pretty good to me even today. But what about the general populace, in a time period that somebody witnessed - e.g. 1980 vs 2012.
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