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Old 01-19-2013, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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It's a big problem, but IMO if you were to completely take the SE portion of the country away, the numbers in this article would improve. I guarantee that with a lot of money.
Well yea, if you take away 1/3 of the data in any set of statistics, the numbers "improve". Maybe this article should have only included non-obese Americans. Then we'd be a perfectly healthy country.
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Old 01-19-2013, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Aventura FL
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A little off-topic but i've noticed the world forum seems to be have become the area where non-americans come to air their grievances or disdain for the US.

Why not post these topics or articles in any of the american forums? When a foreigner has a topic about canada or australia or the UK, Brazil etc. they post them in the forums for that country but not the US for some reason?
No, it's just that the rest of the world (and those from the rest of the world living here in the US) see the wrongs and injustices towards other human beings.

The US also sets itself up for criticism because many Americans proclaim it to be the best country on earth, which is highly subjective (putting it nicely) and up for debate.
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Old 01-19-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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Well yea, if you take away 1/3 of the data in any set of statistics, the numbers "improve". Maybe this article should have only included non-obese Americans. Then we'd be a perfectly healthy country.
Not if that 1/3 has very average numbers in all groups. The southeast though does skew the numbers. Alabama, Tennessee, Mississippi have a much higher percentage of obese people than normal. There's a reason when Jamie Oliver came to the US and did his one show about educating people, he focused on states like these, although I believe he was in West Virginia. West Virginia is basically like the mentality of southern states though.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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We don't eat right.
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Old 01-23-2013, 04:50 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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We don't eat right.
I think this hits the nail on the head
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Old 01-25-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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I think this hits the nail on the head
Yup, that's the vast bulk of our health problems here.

The combination of lax oversight and regulations and major corporations isolating manufacturing to a single location or region but selling nationally means that preservatives and processing techniques that are outlawed elsewhere in the world - for instance, there's no federally-set maximum level of arsenic in foods - are standard practice here. The use of hydrogenated soybean oil, high fructose corn syrup, processed meat bi-products, etc. is a major contributor to the health problems that we have in this country.

The other main component would be a cultural obsession with unnecessarily large portions, constant mocking and denigrating of healthy, whole, real foods as a feminine, sissy, hippie fad rather than the traditional diet that the coal miners, railroad builders, soldiers, construction workers, etc who formed and built America.
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Old 01-25-2013, 09:32 PM
 
Location: Aventura FL
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We don't eat right.
Britain doesn't eat right either, yet despite its crappy, evil, socialistic NHS, it beats the US in just about every aspect of "health" and "survival" and for almost 1/3 of the cost. Why is that? Brits are actually more unhealthy than Americans in terms of drinking and smoking, our foods are just as fattening, even though our overall rate of obesity is less.

Why?

Because so many people in the US are effectively priced out of healthcare. The only healthcare that millions of people have here is the last resort: the Emergency Room.
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Old 01-26-2013, 08:54 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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Britain doesn't eat right either, yet despite its crappy, evil, socialistic NHS, it beats the US in just about every aspect of "health" and "survival" and for almost 1/3 of the cost. Why is that? Brits are actually more unhealthy than Americans in terms of drinking and smoking, our foods are just as fattening, even though our overall rate of obesity is less.

Why?

Because so many people in the US are effectively priced out of healthcare. The only healthcare that millions of people have here is the last resort: the Emergency Room.
This is also true, but I do believe the problem is even worse in the US, Americans on travel forums will quite often complain that food portion sizes in foreign countries are 'small' when of course in the US a restaurant will often give you enough food for 2 and in other countries they are probably nearer to 'correct' portion sizes. Although the 'diet' in the UK (and other countries) can be equally as unhealthy at least you are eating less of it!
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Old 01-26-2013, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Upper West Side, Manhattan, NYC
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We don't eat right.
Many people don't, many people do. There are a ton who don't eat right obviously though. It is terrible because it affects healthcare costs. People are all about their freedoms here, which means eating whatever the **** you want. That is fine and I think that if people want to eat whatever the **** they want, they obviously should be able to.

However, I think a lot of people are uneducated about food and sometimes they think they actually are eating healthy. I worked at a bakery back in the day and it's actually hilarious how people went there to get sandwiches, bagels, etc and thought they were eating so healthily. Even the plain bagels had 20 grams of fat and 300-400 calories EACH. These people thought they were eating a 2 gram of fat, 100 calorie piece of food.

I think too that while it's a big meat country, a lot of people kind of believe that vegetables always taste like **** and shy away from them. The old farm diet mentality in a lot of places is very meat and potatoes too, so that's what some people largely grow up on as well especially in rural areas.
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