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View Poll Results: Which city do you like best?
Melbourne 42 21.65%
Montreal 48 24.74%
Sydney 54 27.84%
Toronto 50 25.77%
Voters: 194. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-21-2017, 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Acajack View Post
This is a bit of a harsh post but it's also true that most Canadian cities (including Toronto) rested on their laurels for a couple of decades and did not invest much in their public "realms". As a result, things have gotten a bit dog-eared in a lot of places. As someone else said, winter is not necessarily the best time to appreciate the look of Canadian cities, unless perhaps there is a freshly fallen coat of bright, sparkling snow, followed by a sunny day that makes everything look shiny and clean. And this depends on the city as well - some cities look better in snow than others.
"...also true that most Canadian cities (including Toronto) rested on their laurels for a couple of decades and did not invest much in their public "realms".

If you are at all suggesting of the possibility that a change in the willingness to invest in the public realm will materialize in the near future, well, let's just say Kevin O'Leary (a canuck Trump). There remains in Canada a very powerful political movement against raising taxes and spending money on any enhancements to the public realm and other such 'frills'. Oh, lot's of 'studies' will be commissioned , many fancy renderings will be produced but what we'll get is the typical watered down canadian compromise or nothing.
I'm banking on nothing.

The old guard who are responsible for this under-investment still controls electoral politics and most of the wealth and I believe they still cling to their 'private wealth amid public squalor' creed. When the boomers die then maybe we'll get going.
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Old Today, 08:16 AM
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Wow, I didn’t know this thread existed. I have lived in Sydney, Melbourne and Montreal. I spent some days in Toronto. My ranking would be:

1. Montreal - Sydney ( I love both cities, I prefer the vibe, the nightlife and the people in Montreal, but I prefer the lifestyle, scenery, weather and work opportunities of Sydney. Both cities are great!

3. Melbourne: it is like Toronto but better lol - great CBD and inner-city neighbourhoods, free public transport in the CBD, cool people and laneways, wealthy city (top-notch infrastructure, better than any of the other 3 cities)

4. Toronto: it is a nice city but I didn’t find it interesting, nothing had the “wow” factor, ok I give you the CN tower. It was dead on a Sunday. I think it’s a bit overrated. I hate their Subway (they still use tickets made from cardboard and someone from the staff has to validate it ) pointless lines too. Hate their streetcars too, it is so slow. Queen street is nice though - cool vibe

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Old Today, 08:58 AM
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Montreal or Toronto, but probably Montreal
All are better than decent, I'll be a surprise and go with Melbourne because what it has within 100 miles beats the other cities IMO.
I don't mind cooler climates but Sydney's is the most classically ideal.
Urban layout
? Montreal I guess
Give me Toronto here, depending on definition of parks the other cities could* compete though
Public transport/road infrastructure
Not completely certain
Montreal for old, Toronto for new?
Again not completely certain, but guessing Montreal or Melbourne
Sydney here. Dynamic feel matched by few places on earth along waterfront over to The Rocks/Darling Harbour/etc.
All have plenty of options I'm sure. Montreal likely has most unique local options though. Toronto best mix ethnic.
Culture (Museums, Art.etc)
Hmm.. All are pretty good, but I don't know that any would be head and shoulders above others. Possibly Toronto here? Local art is almost certainly Melbourne from what I hear.
People (Friendliness.etc)
I don't really consider people to be that much different from place to place.
Cost of living/Livability
I think Montreal is the most affordable. Melbourne generally wins on livability though I'm not completely certain of what makes it so.
Which Amenities? Probably Toronto or perhaps Sydney, broadly speaking, but I'm not sure.
Tourist attractions
Sydney seems to be the most "tourist" centered and most famous attractions, Montreal is the most compact/walkable, Toronto probably has the biggest sheer number/diversity of attractions, and Melbourne is perhaps best for those searching for an authentic "living like a local" vibe, whatever that means.

Overall preference? I voted for Toronto. I really, really like all of these cities, but I don't know that on draws alone, there's one that has "so much more", than any others. If I was recommending one for a visitor, I'd probably say Sydney with the beaches right there, distinctive atmosphere, climate, relative compact feel, and I'd recommend Montreal as it satisfies at least some of the elements and atmosphere of a European city center but is much closer for North Americans. But, Toronto, I don't know how to define it, but even though there was crazy bustle, awesome vibrancy, attractions/architecture while there (not saying it isn't vibrant, as it is), but there's some sense of normalcy/home/etc. that I felt there moreso than in any of the other cities. I suppose it's because I grew up in Cleveland, but despite it at the regional population level now almost being a mega city, there was a comfort and calmness in a number of residential neighborhoods, being able to find quiet spaces in the ravines and islands right within the city, and there wasn't all that much of a pretense among the locals (not that there was in other cities, but still). I have to say it seems, much more than Chicago, like a larger version of Cleveland, if it had kept growing past it's 1920s peak to become an Alpha-type city. It also has a cool blend of a good amount of old and new, which I like.
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