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Old 02-03-2013, 11:38 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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What's the point of having an American citizenship? You don't get access to any decent benefits, services, or healthcare, and you have to pay taxes to uncle Sam regardless of where you live. It's just stupid.
U.S. citizenship is required for most jobs with the federal government, which happens to be one of the most desirable places to work in America right now for many people.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:32 AM
 
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U.S. citizenship is required for most jobs with the federal government, which happens to be one of the most desirable places to work in America right now for many people.

Which is by the way the largest employer in the country. We want and need smaller government but yet we have to keep people employed. Catch 22 anyone. Vicious circle also comes to mind.
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Eighteen former NBA professional basketball players born in the USA have taken naturalized citizenship in other countries. Three of them in the Republic of Georgia, two each in Libya, Australia, Lebanon and Montenegro, and one in Bosnia, Bulgaria, France, Japan, Macedonia, Russia and Spain. Apparently, none had ancestors from, those countries, and at least some of them emigrated in order to improve their chances of competing internationally.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...gn_NBA_players

By the way, one of my wives was Canadian, and lived with me in the USA for eight years, and never gave the slightest thought to ever becoming an American citizen.

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:34 PM
 
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As a total oustider, I would be excited to meet and american citizen, I hardly ever hear a real american person talking in their cool accents

However in no way would I be envious.
Aww shop keepers in Adelaide used to compliment me on the accent, but after several years of living in Oz, I started adapting and stopped getting compliments on the accent. I did not meet a lot of foreigners who thought US citizenship was the end all. I've met people who wanted any western passport so they could travel visa free, but these were people from sri Lanka, etc. An Australian passport would have been sufficient for them

BTW I love a sunburnt country.

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Old 02-04-2013, 03:47 PM
 
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Eighteen former NBA professional basketball players born in the USA have taken naturalized citizenship in other countries. Three of them in the Republic of Georgia, two each in Libya, Australia, Lebanon and Montenegro, and one in Bosnia, Bulgaria, France, Japan, Macedonia, Russia and Spain. Apparently, none had ancestors from, those countries, and at least some of them emigrated in order to improve their chances of competing internationally.

List of foreign NBA players - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By the way, one of my wives was Canadian, and lived with me in the USA for eight years, and never gave the slightest thought to ever becoming an American citizen.
How do 18 basketball players who could not make it in the US and took second passports pertain to this thread? Curious.. Not challenging, just not sure of how it sdupports in thread
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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I had the most awful row with my Dad when I told him I really wasn't interested in applying for US citizenship. He was definitely one of those Your-life-will-be-perfect-once-you-have-it people. In the end I did do it mainly so I could vote. I've recently had an email conversation with someone in Germany determined to move here because he believes it will be better here for his family than there. Or at least, it will be the same only with cheaper housing.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:13 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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The fact that 11 million people are in the U.S. illegally gives you an indication of how badly a lot of people in the world want to be in the U.S.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:15 PM
 
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The fact that 11 million people are in the U.S. illegally gives you an indication of how badly a lot of people in the world want to be in the U.S.
But the majority of that 11 million are from countries with lower standards of living.
You'll also find millions of Americans that left the US.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:37 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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How do 18 basketball players who could not make it in the US and took second passports pertain to this thread? Curious.. Not challenging, just not sure of how it sdupports in thread
I thought it would be relevant in this thread to talk about people who might have not wished to have a US citizenship, even if they already had one. Obviously, those 18 did not think American citizenship was the end all be all, which appears to be the topic. I don't think I've ever known anyone who gave up their American citizenship, so it surprised me that there were so many.
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Old 02-04-2013, 07:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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The fact that 11 million people are in the U.S. illegally gives you an indication of how badly a lot of people in the world want to be in the U.S.
Of those, I think only about half are Mexican citizens, which represents only about 5% of the total population of Mexico, the other 95% being perfectly content and quite proud of Mexican nationality.

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