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Old 02-16-2013, 11:11 PM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Meh. I went on with my day just fine. Australians and Chinese are the groups of people where, I can say with certainty, I have NEVER left the meeting better than I went into it. Many people (such as yourself) like to then turn around the conversation and say Americans can be racist.

OF COURSE!

We're capable of doing/being anything any other group of people can do or be. The difference I find with Aussies is that they have such a gruff, rough, BOORISH way of doing everything, even being racist. Racism in the US tends to be more subtle. People will throw slurs if they are behind a computer or in a car speeding away. I would be SHOCKED if another American in his 30's (the Aussie looked about 33/35) came up to me and called me "BLACKY!" Um...WHAT?!

With Aussies, it's just another example of why I'll never go to that ex-penal colony turned desert island they lovingly call "OZ"...ugh





Trimac is not too unlike many non-Americans on this forum. Once someone criticizes their country, it's time to completely change the subject and talk about America's faults. Cuz, y'know, that was the topic...

Classic Red Herring.
Yes we can be rather boorish, but naturally the loud boorish ones will stand out. It doesn't mean most of us are like that (At least not sober!).

Well I'm just pointing out ways in which I think we're the 'lucky country.' There are aspects of life where I prefer here over the US.

You just sound closed-minded about Australia. I've been to America and generally found the people friendly. I don't let stereotypes prevent me from giving a place a 'fair go' as we say here.
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Aventura FL
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I've never been to Australia, but it's somewhere I'd like to be born in in the next life if possible. A lot of Brits still emigrate there and seem to assimilate well. It's a new world country without as much love for guns + it has universal healthcare and seems to care about its poor. I find that very appealing, plus the music scene is great.

Am I right in saying that Australia would have most of the good things I like about the US (lots of space, ethnic diversity, beautiful modern cities) but not so much of the things I dislike (religious fundamentalists, right wing loons, the love of guns, bad treatment of the poor and often mindless individualism)?
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Old 02-16-2013, 11:30 PM
 
Location: First Hill, Seattle
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You don't know many French people then.

Go to France, make an effort to speak the language and not be an obnoxious American tourist and I hereby guarantee you that you will find the French to be (for the most part) very civilised, polite, well mannered, cultured and kind people.

I've experienced far more (intentional and personal) rudeness throughout the US than France.

But if you go over there as an ignoramus who refuses to speak the language and demands Outback type service in restaurants, of course you are going to think that French people are rude.

Americans go to Paris expecting a fairytale or a museum, perhaps not realising that it's also a big city with big city problems like anywhere else.
Well be that as it may. I live in the United States and French is not spoken here except for Aroostok County, Maine and Cajun Louisiana. I have spent the past 13 years of my life learning Spanish and I want to explore as many Spanish - speaking countries as possible. I lived in Spain for 4 months and absolutely loved it.

I have no desire to learn French and I'm sure the people of France will be as happy about me not visiting as I am about not visiting since they don't appreciate people not speaking French which I completely understand. It's not about being an ignoramus, if I was an ignoramus I imagine I'd have no qualms about visiting France despite not speaking a lick of French.
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Old 02-17-2013, 01:08 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Yes we can be rather boorish, but naturally the loud boorish ones will stand out. It doesn't mean most of us are like that (At least not sober!).

Well I'm just pointing out ways in which I think we're the 'lucky country.' There are aspects of life where I prefer here over the US.

You just sound closed-minded about Australia. I've been to America and generally found the people friendly. I don't let stereotypes prevent me from giving a place a 'fair go' as we say here.

You can't seem to grasp the fact that you are only the "lucky country" in your own mind. There is no huge exodus of Americans wanting to move to Australia. I don't know a single person that would want to live there. Many Americans would like to visit that is for sure. But very few would want to live there permanetly.

Most Americans view Australia as an unimportant backwater with a nice climate. Your views of the US are clouded by stereotypes, but go right ahead.

As a good friend of mine said quite a few years ago, Australia is nothing more than England with sunshine.
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Old 02-17-2013, 02:51 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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You can't seem to grasp the fact that you are only the "lucky country" in your own mind. There is no huge exodus of Americans wanting to move to Australia. I don't know a single person that would want to live there. Many Americans would like to visit that is for sure. But very few would want to live there permanetly.

Most Americans view Australia as an unimportant backwater with a nice climate. Your views of the US are clouded by stereotypes, but go right ahead.

As a good friend of mine said quite a few years ago, Australia is nothing more than England with sunshine.
You just sound like you have something against Australia. It's like I'm not even allowed to appreciate living here . What 'stereotypes' are you even talking about? I'm not shouting from the roof-tops about how Australia is so much better than anywhere else, all I said was I do I agree that we are 'lucky' and I feel personally that Australian possibly offers the best quality of life all-round of any nation right now.
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Old 02-17-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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India.
Too dirty and people don't wash their hands after making a poo.
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Old 02-17-2013, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Any African countries
SE Asia
Any of the former USSR nations (Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc.)
Central or South America
Bermuda
Greenland
Anywhere in the mid-east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.)
India
Bangladesh
Mongolia
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Old 02-17-2013, 03:00 PM
 
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The difference I find with Aussies is that they have such a gruff, rough, BOORISH way of doing everything, even being racist. Racism in the US tends to be more subtle. People will throw slurs if they are behind a computer or in a car speeding away. I would be SHOCKED if another American in his 30's (the Aussie looked about 33/35) came up to me and called me "BLACKY!" Um...WHAT?!
Well, that just makes it worse, in my opinion. One would say what annoys you the most is not racism but the fact that people might not be physically cowardly in their racism...
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:29 PM
 
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Any African countries
SE Asia
Any of the former USSR nations (Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc.)
Central or South America
Bermuda
Greenland
Anywhere in the mid-east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.)
India
Bangladesh
Mongolia
I suppose your list would be a lot longer if you knew the names of more countries.

I can see why people are worried about the 'mid-east' though - judging by your post it seems to be expanding rapidly!
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Old 02-17-2013, 04:41 PM
 
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Any African countries
SE Asia
Any of the former USSR nations (Russia, Slovakia, Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, etc.)
Central or South America
Bermuda
Greenland
Anywhere in the mid-east (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, etc.)
India
Bangladesh
Mongolia
Thanks, I had a GREAT laugh. There's only one "former USSR nation" on that list
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