Welcome to City-Data.com Forum!
U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 01-29-2013, 01:40 PM
 
Location: United State
672 posts, read 503,060 times
Reputation: 553

Advertisements

I was wondering how big does a City has to be in order to host a Olympics in both Winter and Summer? I notice the Cities that host The Summer Olympics are generally Larger then the Cites who host the Winter Olympics in size and Population.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 01-29-2013, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Europe
1,646 posts, read 3,487,681 times
Reputation: 1163
There are more facts apart from the size:

- Infraestructures.
- Security.
- Ready for tourism.
- Transport.

By the way and talking about the population I think from 1 million people more or less but it's not a rule. Barcelona was an example of a city not being extremely big but just big.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
9,828 posts, read 9,416,286 times
Reputation: 6288
Quote:
Originally Posted by NorthwestResident View Post
I was wondering how big does a City has to be in order to host a Olympics in both Winter and Summer? I notice the Cities that host The Summer Olympics are generally Larger then the Cites who host the Winter Olympics in size and Population.
Larger cities tend to have the infrastructure in place to host the myriad of events plus deal with the crush of visitors that descend on them during the games. They're not all monster cities like Beijing and London though--Sydney, Atlanta, and Barcelona were in the 4-5 million range when they hosted the games. Montreal in 1976 couldn't have had more than 2 million people in its metro--a borderline small city.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
1,736 posts, read 2,526,999 times
Reputation: 1340
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catbelle View Post
There are more facts apart from the size:

- Infraestructures.
- Security.
- Ready for tourism.
- Transport.

By the way and talking about the population I think from 1 million people more or less but it's not a rule. Barcelona was an example of a city not being extremely big but just big.
Not necessarily. Rio has currently only two metro lines and the safety, although it had improvements in the most recent years, is still far from ideal. Many infrastructure works are under construction and certainly the situation of Rio will be very better in 2016, but these mentioned above were certainly not the primary reason for choosing Rio as host city for 2016.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:09 PM
 
6,467 posts, read 8,187,014 times
Reputation: 5515
Winter Olympics: Some host cities are very small:
  • Lake Placid (1932/80): 2,638 people (2000)
  • Albertville (1992): 18,480 people (2008)
  • Lillehammer (1994): 26,639 people (2011)
  • Pyeongchang County (2018): 43,706 people (2008)
Munich hosted the 1972 Summer Olympics. They wanted to host the 2018 Winter Olympics but lost to Pyeongchang, South Korea.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:46 PM
 
9,961 posts, read 17,522,258 times
Reputation: 9193
One of the primary requirement for the Winter Olympics is to be close enough to mountains able to have a ski area able to hold an Olympic/World Cup size downhill race. The minimum vertical drop needed for a men's downhill race is about 800m--about 2,600 ft--with most races falling in the range of 800m-1000m(around 3,200 ft)--and you're going to need reliable snow coverage as well(or cold enough temperatures for snow-making).

The ski area doesn't have to be right in or adjacent to the host city--as was the case with Vancouver and Whistler and will be the case with Sochi next year. The ski area will need to be at least within an hour or two of the host city. However, if you want to look at what areas are able to host the Winter Olympics--look at a list of ski areas in the world by vertical drop and/or which mountains holds World Cup downhill races currently.

More recently, as the Winter Olympics have gotten larger, there's been a trend towards having the games set in larger cities near the mountains--Vancouver, Torino, Salt Lake City, and so on... These days they might not consider Squaw Valley or St. Moritz--basically large ski resort villages as being viable candidates for the games. They want larger arenas capable of having big crowds for hockey and figure skating along with the opening cermonies. They want international airports nearby and plenty of hotels for visitors and other amenities. However, the size of the Winter Olympics is easily accomodated by midsize cities.

The Summer Games on the other hand completely dwarf the scale of the Winter Games. The amount of events and venues needed--along with participating countries--is much more than the Winter Games. In general you need to be considered an large global city(or almost there) and have large venues or be willing to build them. Atlanta was one of the smaller choices in terms of size, and Athens was a very borderline pick. Which is why it's funny when some city like Tulsa, Oklahoma or Baku, Azerbaijan puts together a semi-serious bid. The Summer Olympics is going to cities near the top tiers of world cities--and in general you need a city or country rich enough financially to put up enough money to host the games--both in terms of new infrastructure and covering the cost of everything else(unless you can get plenty of sponsors like Atlanta did). Most games end up losing money--the most profitable Summer Games was Los Angeles in 1984, when they just used existing venues and got corporate sponsors and ended up making a good profit.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:54 PM
 
Location: North Idaho
32,647 posts, read 48,028,221 times
Reputation: 78426
First, it cost an enormous fortune to host the Olympics, which favors the larger cities with the bigger tax base.

The winter olympics must be some place with snow and ice and a ski mountain. That limits the options. Also many winter sports are outdoors, so fewer stadiums need to be built.

Winter or summer, the town has to be large enough to house and feed all the visitors.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Canada
4,865 posts, read 10,525,805 times
Reputation: 5504
Quote:
Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives View Post
Larger cities tend to have the infrastructure in place to host the myriad of events plus deal with the crush of visitors that descend on them during the games. They're not all monster cities like Beijing and London though--Sydney, Atlanta, and Barcelona were in the 4-5 million range when they hosted the games. Montreal in 1976 couldn't have had more than 2 million people in its metro--a borderline small city.





Montreal Metro had 2,743,208 people in 1971, and 2,862,286 in 1981. Still small, but not that small.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 03:37 PM
 
Location: Chicago(Northside)
3,678 posts, read 7,215,396 times
Reputation: 1697
Capability and cleaness...all it is
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 01-29-2013, 05:05 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
22,112 posts, read 29,581,703 times
Reputation: 8819
Surely infrastructure is a far more important criterion as opposed to size? Having a decent metro system to travel people around different venues is an absolute must, maybe a large international airport too, or at least one within the vicinity.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > World Forums > World

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:54 PM.

© 2005-2024, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Contact Us - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37 - Top