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Old 03-08-2013, 04:36 PM
 
Location: NYC and Chicago
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Surprised Turkey is at #104... It really depends on where you go in that country. First of all, homosexuality is legal there and has been since the mid 1800s. Lots of gay bars, clubs, bath houses, etc in Istanbul. They also gave it a -1 for "Pride Banned" even though Istanbul has a pride parade every year that attracts thousands of people (Last year between 10,000 and 30,000). You don't find it in Ankara, Izmir, etc.

Their civil laws are behind on this so they do have that against them, but again, depends on where you're going. Last time I went to Turkey, two of my gay friends were with me. They did not have to hide it and they went to gay bath houses, clubs, bars, drag shows, etc without any problem. Hell, even at a regular bath house this guy who was supposedly straight and married tried to come onto me (probably because he sensed my two friends and thought I was gay too). Did not try and hide it at all.. In other cities it is different though. There's no way they should be that badly place on the list though. IMO they should be in the middle

As this is a travel index too, I don't think they go too deeply into other things. For example "Same sex marriage legal" ..in the US most states don't allow for same sex marriage, but in many cities it is still very gay friendly. Pennsylvania and Ohio for example it's not legal, but you have Pittsburgh and Columbus which are two very gay friendly cities.
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Old 03-08-2013, 04:40 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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Yes, but there are countries where is already legal and are not on the TOP 5.
Maybe people here are just more tolerant of homosexuality - or not tolerant, perhaps they are completely accepting of it. I cannot comment on Argentina and how people there react to homosexuality, if the situation there is very good, perhaps it's just better in the UK and France? Just a thought.. England was/is the best place in Europe for gay people according to another index.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:22 AM
 
Location: Back in the PNW where I belong! See ya SoCal
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US is on the same level as Mexico? That's surprising because it's not as accepted in most of the country, with exception of the few states that do allow it. I would also thinking Italy is more gay friendly than that.
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Old 03-09-2013, 01:54 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Actually Italy is one of the least progressive countries in western Europe as far as gay issues are concerned. It hasn't even legalized civil unions.
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Old 03-09-2013, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Australia
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Argentina is 14

it should be TOP 5, imo.

Gay marriage is legal here and BA is the most gayfriendly city you ve seen.
Really? Isn't Argentina Catholic majority?
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Old 03-09-2013, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Thailand at 38? Way to low!

Malaysia at 130 below Syria, Pakistan, Zimbabwe, Bahrain, Maledives, hard to believe.

Surprised at Russia being so low, Egypt and Nigeria rank above it.

Senegal ranks higher than Singapore

South Korea only 89th? K-Pop anyone?
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:47 AM
 
Location: PA
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Really? Isn't Argentina Catholic majority?
So is Spain, just sayin'. Argentine Catholics are not as devout as Mexican Catholics.
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:51 AM
 
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The publishers of a gay travel guide have just released a listing of 138 countries and territories ranked by their perceived friendliness to gays and lesbians. They added points for such items as anti-discrimination and marriage legislation, and deducted them for anti-gay laws, religious influence, and "hostile locals" (which is highly subjective at best).

http://www.spartacusworld.com/gaytravelindex.pdf

Here's what they found.

The 5 best:
Sweden
Belgium
France
Netherlands
UK

The 5 worst (note that the list omits Uganda, which would probably score extremely badly):
Iran
UAE
Russia
Jordan
Jamaica

The US scored #38 overall, tied with Mexico and Italy, but they point out that there is a lot of variation within the US; the best places (DC, Massachusetts, New York) score on a level equivalent to NL or France, while the worst ones (Alabama, North Carolina) are on a par with Poland and India.

What do you think? Does this list accurately reflect the climate towards gays in your country and/or state?
agree with the best place list but not one african country on the list of worst places , something wrong there , russia is hardly worthy of a top five worst either , if the list was of worst places to be a journalist , different story
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Old 03-09-2013, 07:53 AM
 
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Really? Isn't Argentina Catholic majority?

typical reply

which do you think is more tollerant of gays

protestant alabama or catholic spain ? or even massachusiss ?
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Old 03-09-2013, 08:02 AM
 
Location: PA
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which do you think is more tollerant of gays

protestant alabama or catholic spain ? or even massachusiss ?
This. Argentina, just like Spain, is culturally Catholic, not observant.
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