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View Poll Results: Most Racist Developed Countries
Norway 7 1.85%
Australia 55 14.51%
America 116 30.61%
Germany 23 6.07%
Netherlands 7 1.85%
Sweden 10 2.64%
Ireland 12 3.17%
New Zealand 1 0.26%
Switzerland 16 4.22%
Japan 132 34.83%
Voters: 379. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-26-2014, 03:32 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Australia is the most racist Anglophone country!
Please don't speak when your country has a region mainly made up of racist rednecks (*cough* America's south).

Our capitals (Sydney, Melbourne, Perth, etc) are no more or less racist than NYC, LA, Chicago...

Oh, the last time "racism in police" happened here was in 2004 (Redfern Riots). You guys had one just a few weeks ago and one again in 2012. Our one wasn't as half as bad since the cops didn't kill the Aboriginal (they chased him, he ran and impaled himself on a fence).
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:12 AM
 
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Quite a large number of Asian immigrants to the US are poor, probably more than Asian immigrants to Canada or Australia who are selected based on skills. In NYC, poverty rates among Chinese and Korean immigrants are quite high, but the second generation seems to assimilate quickly and ascend to middle-class status. Many Asian immigrants settle in their own communities, yet high poverty rates do not deter them from becoming successful. I can't necessarily say the same of Latino immigrants.

African Americans have access to affirmative action programs and such. Their lack of success shouldn't be blamed on greater American society.
True, I'm from California and in every major city in California, you have Asian populations living in the ghettos and contributing to the crime rate. From Oakland to San Francisco to Stockton to Fresno to Long Beach, you have tons of Asian American poverty and violent Asian American gangs. This is because California is the most open entry point for Asian immigrants from the third world.

The reason why blacks and Latinos in America are poorer as a whole than Asians is because Asian immigration to America can be extremely controlled. All of the dirt poor Asians who assembled your iphone and sewed together all of your clothes aren't inherently smarter or more successful than any one else living in the third world. The only thing separating Central America from the U.S. is an imaginary border. American businesses are taking advantage of the cheap labor offered by Central American immigrants. In order for Asians to come to America across thousands of miles of Pacific Ocean, they need in-demand skills and money saved up to move over here in the first place. Koreans pool their money together and fill a niche by opening businesses in predominantly black inner city areas where white owned businesses and corporate America refuse to set up shop. Poorer Asians in America tend to be Southeast Asians from war-torn countries (i.e. Vietnam, Cambodia) who come here as refugees and bring their culture of violence and poverty with them. Other Asian groups like you said come to America poor and live in lower-income communities in California before moving out of the city for a better life.

But blacks and Native Americans are native populations that are strongly oppressed. Blacks and whites in America are stuck with each other. Blacks and whites have a long rocky history with each other. For the most part, blacks and whites don't get along in America. But whites control America and institutional racism against blacks here is rampant. It is plain harder for a black man to get a job than a white man. This is a well-documented fact.

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/0...nces-for-hire/

Tons of drugs are imported into economically blasted black inner city areas as a means of population control. Although whites are more likely to use and sell drugs, blacks have paid the highest price of the futile "war on drugs". Incarceration of black males on non-violent drug charges has caused blacks to dominate the American prison population. Today, there are more black men in prison than there were black men in slavery in 1850. If that isn't blatant oppression, I don't know what it is.

Law Professor: More black men are prisoners today than were slaves in 1850 | The Libertarian Republic

And blacks have come a long way even in the past 20 years. Blacks are suburbanizing at a very high rate and leaving the inner city for the suburbs by gaining education and useful job skills.
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Old 08-26-2014, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Both coasts
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Please don't speak when your country has a region mainly made up of racist rednecks (*cough* America's south).
Have you even stepped off your island?

That derogatory sweeping generalization of over 110 million people- 5X the population of your entire country- speaks more about your cluelessness & naivete than anything else.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:04 AM
 
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Again, Europe is just a region. NOT a race. Southern Europeans are more culturally and anthropologically similar to Middle Eastern people rather than to say, Germans or Swedes. And that's because both areas are situated in the Mediterranean where trading and such happened.
Hum ? Really ? Did you visit those places ? Because if you did you would know how wrong this statement is. Sure Italy is not Germany, but it's far more like Germany than anywhere in the Middle East. Why ? Because following your geographical argument, Italy is in Europe. Italy is closer to Germany than the closest Middle Eastern country. And you can go there by foot, no need to risk your life on a boat. Northern Italy was part of the Holy Roman Empire btw and has borders with Austria.
If you disagree list some of your cultural and anthropological similarities with the Middle East. Like religion, customs, politics, cuisine, and so on.
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Old 08-26-2014, 10:12 AM
 
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Hum ? Really ? Did you visit those places ? Because if you did you would know how wrong this statement is. Sure Italy is not Germany, but it's far more like Germany than anywhere in the Middle East. Why ? Because following your geographical argument, Italy is in Europe. Italy is closer to Germany than the closest Middle Eastern country. And you can go there by foot, no need to risk your life on a boat. Northern Italy was part of the Holy Roman Empire btw and has borders with Austria.
If you disagree list some of your cultural and anthropological similarities with the Middle East. Like religion, customs, politics, cuisine, and so on.
JedlaRoche, he is likely not to even be able to place Italy on a map, do you expect him to back-up his statements?
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But blacks and Native Americans are native populations that are strongly oppressed. Blacks and whites in America are stuck with each other. Blacks and whites have a long rocky history with each other. For the most part, blacks and whites don't get along in America. But whites control America and institutional racism against blacks here is rampant. It is plain harder for a black man to get a job than a white man. This is a well-documented fact.

Study: Black man and white felon – same chances for hire – Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

Tons of drugs are imported into economically blasted black inner city areas as a means of population control. Although whites are more likely to use and sell drugs, blacks have paid the highest price of the futile "war on drugs". Incarceration of black males on non-violent drug charges has caused blacks to dominate the American prison population. Today, there are more black men in prison than there were black men in slavery in 1850. If that isn't blatant oppression, I don't know what it is.

Law Professor: More black men are prisoners today than were slaves in 1850 | The Libertarian Republic

And blacks have come a long way even in the past 20 years. Blacks are suburbanizing at a very high rate and leaving the inner city for the suburbs by gaining education and useful job skills.
Yes, Blacks are gaining skills. A lot of the suburbanization is due to the gentrification of large US cities though. However, educational gaps still remain. There is quite a large disparity between Blacks and Whites in average SAT scores, yet Asian Americans outscore White Americans.

People like to forgot that in London, a disproportionate amount of crime is committed by its Black population despite the UK not having a history of importing African slaves in large numbers. Most of the Black population exists due to Caribbean and African immigration. The Daily Mail had a controversial article on it years back. I guess the UK is also racist, hence why this problem exists.

Metropolitan Police crime statistics reveal violent criminals are mostly black - and so are their victims | Mail Online
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Old 08-26-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Sweden
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Yes, Blacks are gaining skills. A lot of the suburbanization is due to the gentrification of large US cities though. However, educational gaps still remain. There is quite a large disparity between Blacks and Whites in average SAT scores, yet Asian Americans outscore White Americans.

People like to forgot that in London, a disproportionate amount of crime is committed by its Black population despite the UK not having a history of importing African slaves in large numbers. Most of the Black population exists due to Caribbean and African immigration. The Daily Mail had a controversial article on it years back. I guess the UK is also racist, hence why this problem exists.

Metropolitan Police crime statistics reveal violent criminals are mostly black - and so are their victims | Mail Online
But I've never heard of the Met Police shooting unarmed black people...

How do British Black people committing a crime make the UK racist Or is it the article you're basing this on...
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But I've never heard of the Met Police shooting unarmed black people...

How do British Black people committing a crime make the UK racist Or is it the article you're basing this on...
You keep using the same examples of American cops shooting Black Americans, seems quite fallacious to continue bringing it up since I don't defend the actions of the police.

I was responding the other poster who suggested that racism is essentially why American society has the problem in the Black community. If the UK has a similar problem, is racism also to blame...
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Old 08-26-2014, 01:11 PM
 
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^Black people in the UK also earn more than Whites.

There is a rot in the system, but not to the extent as the US, with it's painful history and legacy of prejudice, cycles of poverty and accordant crime.

For example in the UK Caribbean men do badly at school, are lower paid than their White counterparts and poverty goes from one generation to the next, with much higher crime figures. Until a few years ago they were multiple times the average to die in police custody, alongside the Irish. -Basically the same story as the Black American male - weathering historical racism, and trapped in poverty and prejudice.

However the Caribbean female is entirely different, earning more than her White counterpart. Likewise Africans (who now make up the majority of the UK's sizeable Black population) are now doing inordinately well, despite initial poverty back in the Nineties. West Africans (read: Nigerians, one of the biggest ethnic communities in the country and the biggest in London) now outperform all other races at school, are more likely to go onto university, and most likely to get a high paying job. All in all Black women now make up the second highest earning social strata in the country, just behind South Asian men.

In short, there is prejudice, but it's short lived, and is an entirely different beast to the US version, which suffers it's painful history. Another thing - despite what seems like prejudice slanted toward the Caribs, they are actually endangered despite their huge numbers as so many of them intermarry. The majority of Caribbean men do so, and one third of women. Mixed race Black children for example outnumber Black children 2 to 1 nowadays.

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Old 08-26-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Nigerian immigrants to the US also perform very well, earning more than White counterparts. If racism was such an ingrained problem here, you would think it would keep them back too.
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