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View Poll Results: Which Country has the most fame in celebrities, movies, music?
UK 18 14.63%
America 92 74.80%
Australia 5 4.07%
Canada 8 6.50%
Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 06-26-2013, 10:58 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Also, the US entertainment industry is so monolithic, and as mentioned earlier, so aggressive in its marketing, that there's very little room, if any at all, in the US for foreign entertainment to make an inroad.

Also, the nature of the film industry in some European countries is different, in that actors aren't promoted like they are in the US, they're not followed around by the papparazzi, and are not treated like royalty, as they are in the US. There's a simple reason for this; Europe already has real royalty, they don't need to invent a fake royalty by elevating film actors to an absurdly high status (with occasional exceptions, like Brigitte Bardot and Gerard Depardieu). In Europe it's the royalty who are in the public eye at every turn. Of course, the US never hears any of that news, because the US has no tradition of royalty, and Americans aren't interested.

The OP has designed a very strange poll. Why aren't all the European countries listed, if he's comparing Europe and North America? If it's about comparing developed countries, why was Japan left out? Aspects of Japan's entertainment industry have been successful in penetrating the American market. Perhaps the OP's omission of Japan was intentional...?
Can't rep you again but very excellent post Ruth! The only exception to Americans not being interested in royalty is with the British Royal Family. We know more about the royal family members than we do about our own members of congress.

 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:02 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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It seems that most developed or globalized countries watch american movies and listen to MOSLTY american music, why is that, is there a history for this wonderful country in getting all the fame? Obviously we dont have those boy bands like Justin Biber(canada) or One Direction(UK). By the way i am a huge fan of Adele, the beetles and other artist. Also looking at some countries top movies right now like Australia, al the top movies are american in developed or globalized countries, why is this, does america just get lucky?
It's a good question.

I don't have a good answer.

What I think is that the answer might have some correlation to whatever the correct answers are to these questions of parochialism:

#1. Why is Hollywood and L.A., the big center of film industry in the U.S.? And why do a handful of American states and cities get picked as the site to film U.S. movies (e.g., Chicago, NYC, L.A., North Caroline, Louisiana)? Why do stories written set in one city like Milwaukee or Demoines get picked up by film directors/producers with the story pretty much kept the same but reset in cities like Chicago and NYC?

#2. Why was Detroit "Motown" and not Cleveland or Baltimore? Why is Detroit no longer the center of Black-American music and Atlanta became a huge mecca for the black arts and the new "Motown"?




Also... you might notice British mainstream singers like Adele sound like they're American when they sing and not British.

Miguel is American and sounds American.


Miguel - Adorn - YouTube


Adele is British and sounds American.


Adele - Rolling In The Deep - YouTube


Corinne Bailey is British and sounds American.


Corinne Bailey Rae - Like A Star (New Version) - YouTube
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:09 AM
 
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When not singing to a mass audience this is how Corinne Bailey and Adele sound:

Interviews:



Adele Live in London with Matt Lauer (Aired June 3rd, 2012) [HQ] - YouTube
Corinne Bailey Rae interview Feb 2010 - YouTube
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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A line from Showtime's Episodes from a British writer that I liked: "Whatever you have to say about Americans, there certainly are a lot of them".

The USA has the largest single audience of wealthy people in the world, and most of them speak English. So you have the greatest single market for movies.

So for a movie like Iron Man 3, the US ticket sales are about the same as the next 7 countries combined. In order they are:
China
South Korea
United Kingdom
Mexico
Brazil
Russia - CIS
France

China is now the largest consumer of American movies; displacing the UK as the traditional number one foreign country. China, of course, has the potential to one day buy more tickets to a movie than the USA, given that the overall population is more than 4 times higher.

Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and The Hobbit are the biggest franchises developed around intellectual property that is British. But the production houses in UK do not have the money to fund and promote movies on this scale.

SPIRITED AWAY or "Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi" made $229 million in Japan, and must be the biggest box office success of all time in that country, but with roughly 40% of the population of the USA, and relatively few Japanese speakers in other countries (and relative intolerance of dubbed films or subtitles) a Japanese film will probably never capture $1/2 billion in worldwide sales.
Informative post. I had to rep you. I didn't realize the American market for English speaking movies, alone was about the same as those 7 listed countries combined.

The rest of the post was very informative too.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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There are other artists around the world just as talented as MJ, but they speak the wrong languages and don't have giant labels to support them.
MJ had a lot of psychological problems. I know all the MJ diehard fans are going to come with their pitchforks, torches, and lynch ropes now. But life is life.

My former Africology professor originally from Haiti said... regarding MJ, "Only in the United States can a black boy grow up to be a beautiful white woman" And so it is. LOL.

But MJ was a top tier entertainer, whatever his personal demons and personal quirks, few on earth have matched or will match his level of entertaining. His dance skills even at his age were awesome.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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A lot of us here were taught the world has 7 continents and you know that so what is the point of starting such a childish argument?
But not everyone. Some were taught--just as validly--that there are 5 continents. I believe the French are taught there are 5 continents.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:36 AM
 
Location: State of Transition
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#1. Why is Hollywood and L.A., the big center of film industry in the U.S.? And why do a handful of American states and cities get picked as the site to film U.S. movies (e.g., Chicago, NYC, L.A., North Caroline, Louisiana)?
Hollywood's the main center of the film industry because that's where the studios are located. But don't forget New York and San Francisco.

The list of states used as sites for films changes. It depends on the economic incentives a state offers in order to court the film industry. New Mexico became a player during governor Bill Richardson's 8-year administration, because NM offered a variety of incentives to the film industry as a way of creating jobs for New Mexicans. The Republican governor who replaced Richardson rolled back those tax incentives, leaving local film industry people unemployed. The film industry is like any other; offer tax incentives, and they will come.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: Western Oregon
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If you're in the USA, you will see mostly American stuff. It doesn't mean everyone in the world sees the same.

Another American self-praising thread.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:41 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Hollywood's the main center of the film industry because that's where the studios are located. But don't forget New York and San Francisco.

The list of states used as sites for films changes. It depends on the economic incentives a state offers in order to court the film industry. New Mexico became a player during governor Bill Richardson's 8-year administration, because NM offered a variety of incentives to the film industry as a way of creating jobs for New Mexicans. The Republican governor who replaced Richardson rolled back those tax incentives, leaving local film industry people unemployed. The film industry is like any other; offer tax incentives, and they will come.
It's also for scenery. Aesthetic appeal is very important whether shooting stills or motion pictures. Directors want the best backdrop they can find as well as being cost effective.
 
Old 06-26-2013, 11:57 AM
 
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It's also for scenery. Aesthetic appeal is very important whether shooting stills or motion pictures. Directors want the best backdrop they can find as well as being cost effective.
Exactly. I think this is why Hollywood was chosen originally, as a base for the film industry. Palm trees and ocean make for great backdrops. And NM threw its hat into the ring because it has all that unusual Southwest scenery immortalized in the old Westerns: dramatic canyons and mesas, desert, dusty little towns that time forgot, etc.
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