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Old 09-02-2013, 11:18 PM
 
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Do you consider these countries in alphabetical order to be first world? Why or why not?

Andorra
Australia
Austria
Belgium

Canada
Croatia
Czech Republic
Denmark
Estonia

Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Hong Kong
Hungary

Iceland
Ireland
Italy
Japan

Latvia
Liechtenstein
Lithuania
Luxembourg

Monaco
Netherlands
New Zealand
Norway
Poland
Portugal

Singapore
Slovakia
Slovenia
South Korea
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
United Kingdom

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Old 09-03-2013, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Andorra - yes
Australia - yes
Austria - yes
Belgium - yes

Canada - yes
Croatia - no
Czech Republic - not sure, probably not
Denmark - yes
Estonia - no

Finland - yes
France - yes
Germany - yes
Greece - no
Hong Kong - sort of
Hungary - no

Iceland - yes
Ireland - yes
Italy - mostly yes
Japan - yes

Latvia - sort of/not sure
Liechtenstein - yes
Lithuania - not sure
Luxembourg - yes

Monaco - yes
Netherlands - yes
New Zealand - yes
Norway - yes
Poland - no
Portugal - not really

Singapore - yes
Slovakia - no
Slovenia - no
South Korea - for the most part yes
Spain - mostly
Sweden - yes
Switzerland - yes
United Kingdom - yes
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:55 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Not spain, portugal, latvia or greece.
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Old 09-03-2013, 12:57 AM
 
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Croatia - no
Czech Republic - not sure, probably not
Estonia - no

Greece - no
Hong Kong - sort of
Hungary - no

Latvia - sort of/not sure
Lithuania - not sure

Poland - no
Portugal - not really

Slovakia - no
Slovenia - no
Good post. I believe we both have high standards for the term first world.

Could you elaborate as to why these countries are not first world?

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Old 09-03-2013, 01:00 AM
 
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Not spain, portugal, latvia or greece.
I appreciate your response. Could you elaborate? You are living in Ireland and claim the countries of Spain, Portugal, Latvia and Greece are not first world. I am assuming you have extensive travel through them because you live in Europe. Have you visited them?
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Andorra - yes
Australia - yes
Austria - yes
Belgium - yes

Canada - yes
Croatia - no
Czech Republic - not sure, probably not
Denmark - yes
Estonia - no

Finland - yes
France - yes
Germany - yes
Greece - no
Hong Kong - sort of
Hungary - no

Iceland - yes
Ireland - yes
Italy - mostly yes
Japan - yes

Latvia - sort of/not sure
Liechtenstein - yes
Lithuania - not sure
Luxembourg - yes

Monaco - yes
Netherlands - yes
New Zealand - yes
Norway - yes
Poland - no
Portugal - not really

Singapore - yes
Slovakia - no
Slovenia - no
South Korea - for the most part yes
Spain - mostly
Sweden - yes
Switzerland - yes
United Kingdom - yes
Is there a reason why the most developed of the Baltic states, Estonia, is the only clear "no" amongst them?

Anyway, I think all of them are fairly developed.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:28 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Good post. I believe both we both have high standards for the term first world.

Could you elaborate as to why these countries are not first world?
A combination of GDP per capita, comparatively lower average income/high rates of poverty (for the developed world), poor bureaucratic systems/economic safety nets, economies not doing well, aging infrastructure/infrastructure not well run.
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Old 09-03-2013, 01:38 AM
 
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Is there a reason why the most developed of the Baltic states, Estonia, is the only clear "no" amongst them?

Anyway, I think all of them are fairly developed.
My reasoning for listing these countries is that these are all countries I have visited or are researching with the possibility of visiting. I do not want to visit countries that are not fully developed or come across as "poor". No offense to anyone, any country or their traveling opinions. However, those are mine and I feel strongly about them. Therefore, I would like some feedback into them. I loved Vienna by the way and plan to see more of Austria.

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Old 09-03-2013, 02:19 AM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Croatia, Latvia, Poland, Slovenia and Slovakia - NO
Portugal, Greece and Hongkong -- 2nd world
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:17 AM
 
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If the previous thread on this topic was any indication, people's definitions of "developed" and "undeveloped" seem to vary significantly according to whether one is appealing to the authority of think tanks such as the OECD (which places emphasis on Human Development indices [1] on a simple a priori basis) or comparative historical studies (which place less emphasis on HDI and more upon foundational values [1][2][3] on the basis of meta-criterion analysis).

I assume you're referring to the former, or systems similar to the former, in which case you can make informed conclusions after studying their inclusion criteria. The up-to-date OECD membership as of 2012:



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