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I currently live in brazil and would like to skedaddle out of here. I lived in the states for 11 years, farther took me when i was 9 lived there illegally till i was 19/20. knowing i was in the wrong i saved up some money and moved back to brazil on my freewill (never had a single problems with authorities, nor was i questioned).. here in brazil im a private english teacher (quite honestly im sick of grammar so this post will be quite lacking) and due to the "private" part it doesn't count as a profession here. i want to move to a new country LEGALLY (not wanting to commit the same mistakes as my father) and start my own life. i just turned 21 on the 24rth and have yet to finish college (started a english major in the states but moved back to brazil before i could finish) and wherever i end up i will finish my studies.
now you maybe asking why would i want to move out of my country of origin... simple, you're punished for being brazilian if you aren't born into a rich family and no matter how hard work or how much you earn at the end of the month you're left with nothing due to the outrageous living costs and terrible living conditions. sure i have have "free" healthcare, but that means nothing to me when everyone tries to take advantage of you any way the can. for example, when i moved back to brazil i had a "atestado de residencia" which means that i don't have to go through customs as i was moving from a new country back to brazil... guess what? they made me unpack everything spread it out on the floor while they googled the price of every single item i had and charged me 25k reais for me to leave (11k usd) OR i could pay the guy who was in charge 10k not say anything and leave with just what i had on my body. all that while i didn't even need to check in with customs.
brazil is made for tourist traps, suppressing the citizens, and screwing everyone over for your own benefit... as someone who couldn't stoop to the same level even if my life depended on it im just not made for this place.. sure i get paid well about 60 dollars an hour (im one of the few guys who charges way less than the average for lessons).. but money isn't the thing here, the culture is terrible, it's extremely dangerous, living conditions are terrible, and you get taxes for just about everything (even with my pay i end up with 20 bucks at the end of the month, and i don't even own a car or house).
so the question is... given those details (rant..pretty much) where would be some of the places i could move to and work to become a legal citizen? i don't want to get married to a citizenship as i feel that it's wrong to do so unless its a real legitimate marriage to create a family.
i looked into canada, but their come to canada tool pretty much said "f**k off" (i would love to go to canada as its the opposite of brazil.. and my sport IS snowboarding)
new zealand is another country i've been told to be easy to move in to.. but i have problems with heat and constantly get sick due to the heat... but even with the heat it beats brazil..
you might think im being whiny, but take my word for it that im not.. just as an example the last 2 weeks alone there was 2 rapes, and 3 murders on my street/neighborhood.
for u portugal.
my brazilian friend lived there for work and said it is easy for brazilians to go there and same lingo.
no snow but nearby countries there is.
for u portugal.
my brazilian friend lived there for work and said it is easy for brazilians to go there and same lingo.
no snow but nearby countries there is.
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Originally Posted by foadi
Ya I would think Portugal as well. Get access to all the EU.
New Zealand isn't hot btw. wtf
the portuguese site barely works :/ especially when you're looking for immigration information.
hell, if new zealand is cold it will make the inner minnesotan in me very happy indeed.. strange to say that i miss the dreary sky, the below 0 weather, the painfully cold wind chills, the wasted time cleaning the driveway... and not to mention the time spent on the slopes and air with a plank strapped to my feet.
other than portugual are there any other suggestions? trying to get as many choices as possible so that i can go through the consulate of each option and see what my chances are... my main problem is that almost everything requires a profession/"skilled worker" as a way to get in the country asn due to my job being a private business it doesn't count as a profession here in brazil and the only family i have that legally lives outside of brazil would be my sister in the states (got married with a bud and is pretty happy together) .. pretty soon ill have about 12k usd in my savings account and that is pretty much the minimum for most countries that i looked at (canada being one of them)
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Originally Posted by Ariete
Finland.
thanks ill look into it also.. currently on their immigration page, not sure if it's how they worded things ro if it's the way it is.. but it seems like a pretty relaxed in terms of immigration law
also, i would like to thnak you guys for trying to give me a hand here. i appreciate it more than you think.
thanks ill look into it also.. currently on their immigration page, not sure if it's how they worded things ro if it's the way it is.. but it seems like a pretty relaxed in terms of immigration law
The best way to get in is to be admitted to a Finnish university or similar school. They have quotas, but a wide range of English programs. You need money, 7k€ a year for financial security, but if you have that, there should be no problems. Being from Brazil is a lot easier to be admitted than if you were from Congo.
The student resident visa is renewed every year, and after you've completed your studies, you'll get automatically a permanent resident visa if you want, and given most benefits except for voting and some other. After five or six years of continuous living you can apply for citizenship, which grants all civil rights and also the Finnish nationality and EU passport for your kids if your wife is a Finnish citizen.
Study, work, love. The easiest way to get in, and once you are, you won't be thrown out if you're not committing any serious crimes. I've met some Brazilians who lives here, and they've fallen in love with this country, and especially the Finnish girls.
The best way to get in is to be admitted to a Finnish university or similar school. They have quotas, but a wide range of English programs. You need money, 7k€ a year for financial security, but if you have that, there should be no problems. Being from Brazil is a lot easier to be admitted than if you were from Congo.
The student resident visa is renewed every year, and after you've completed your studies, you'll get automatically a permanent resident visa if you want, and given most benefits except for voting and some other. After five or six years of continuous living you can apply for citizenship, which grants all civil rights and also the Finnish nationality and EU passport for your kids if your wife is a Finnish citizen.
Study, work, love. The easiest way to get in, and once you are, you won't be thrown out if you're not committing any serious crimes. I've met some Brazilians who lives here, and they've fallen in love with this country, and especially the Finnish girls.
thanks for the info, will look into it. the problem with that would be the yearly income as i would have no way to safely say "yes, i can earn that" especially since right now i only have about 11k usd (8.1k eu) saved up... bet then again here everything is expensive so it really cuts into how much i can save up...
say, as an example what would be a job that would safely meet that requirement? (nothing in specific, just examples)
ahahahahah as for the women, been heartbroken too many times.. i do everything in my power to make sure someone is happy but all they do is step all over me and not give me a gram of value. odd for a 21 year old to say that but, it's true.
How do you save up $12,000 if you're left with 20 bucks at the end of the month?
If you're earning $60 an hour and you work full-time, surely you can afford to live in a better neighbourhood than the one you're in now? If you're getting paid for your services, how does it not count as a profession (and does that also mean you don't pay income tax)?
Perhaps you can use your savings to finish your study abroad? The criteria for exchange students are not as strict and tuition in many countries is relatively cheap (or even free in some cases). Then you can either look for a job there (which is a critical requirement if you want to stay long-term) or you can return to Brazil once you have obtained your degree and find a "legitimate" job there so you can live more comfortably.
thanks for the info, will look into it. the problem with that would be the yearly income as i would have no way to safely say "yes, i can earn that" especially since right now i only have about 11k usd (8.1k eu) saved up... bet then again here everything is expensive so it really cuts into how much i can save up...
say, as an example what would be a job that would safely meet that requirement? (nothing in specific, just examples)
7k€ might sound of a lot, but you don't have the 30k immediately if you study for example for 5 years. And remember that the education is completely free, the only fixed tuition fee is the Student Union one, which is about 100€ a year. That makes you eligble for subsidized student canteens (full meal 2.60€) and free student health care. Being a permanent student also makes you eligble for subsidized student housing, which is a lot cheaper than apartment from the free market. There's not many countries around that can offer all this to you. The 7k a year is meant for your financial security, so you don't have to scavenge for food in dumpsters.
To get in via a workplace, you'll have to have a degree in something, otherwise it's very difficult, next to impossible. You have to be a scientist, specialist, athlete, artist, top or middle management, reverend, reporter or an employee of an international profit or non-profit organization. And you have to be recruited before you arrive. And you're competing against all EU applicants, and destined to lose.
The student way is the best. But as you don't need a visa, you just need something important to do here.
How do you save up $12,000 if you're left with 20 bucks at the end of the month?
If you're earning $60 an hour and you work full-time, surely you can afford to live in a better neighbourhood than the one you're in now? If you're getting paid for your services, how does it not count as a profession (and does that also mean you don't pay income tax)?
Perhaps you can use your savings to finish your study abroad? The criteria for exchange students are not as strict and tuition in many countries is relatively cheap (or even free in some cases). Then you can either look for a job there (which is a critical requirement if you want to stay long-term) or you can return to Brazil once you have obtained your degree and find a "legitimate" job there so you can live more comfortably.
1. money that i have been putting in a savings account from when i used to work in the states.. been sending and saving for years now..
2. its not full time, its not everyone in brazil that has the financial conditions to pay for a private teacher.. meaning that i don't have 60 students that are each paying me. hell there are months that i don't even have 7 students
3. rent is extremely expensive here.. even rent of a crappy house (much like the one i have) can almost eat up a minimum wage of 600 reais (which at times im barely able to make). so does that explain why i cant move to somewhere better or why i have little to nothing left at the end of a month? at the start i had about 20k saved up and im down to pretty much half. i don't live an exorbitant lifestyle by any standard.. so that should give you an idea.
as for studying abroad, that's what im trying to do but instead of coming back to brazil i want to stay out because much like i said in previous posts, i get sick during hot weather (all the time here), unless you're a millionaire you will live some where dangerous, people here are uncultured, rude, and will do anything to screw someone over.. the customs guy as an example...
as for the jobs.. any job that doesn't get your work card signed doesn't count as a profession... meaning i would have to start my own school for me to be able to get that signed which means i would have to pay STEEP/outrageous fines to do so... why don't i just teach in a school? i did, but i found out that they were stealing from student and i didn't want anything to do with that so i quit.. do you seriously thing im sitting around on my hands all day instead of looking for a job??? if so to that i will give you this LINK (but with less screaming)
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