Which is globally more influential/important: Moscow vs the Bay Area (San Francisco) vs Toronto (calculation, military)
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Individuals Worth $30 Millon+, 2013 Top 10 Cities
1 New York 8,025
2 London 6,360 3 Tokyo 6,015 4 Los Angeles 4,945 5 San Francisco 4,840 6 Osaka 3,300
7 Paris 3,195 8 Hong Kong 3,180
9 Mexico City 2,695
10 Washington DC 2,675
The often lauded 'top 4' cities in the world(NY, London, Paris, Tokyo) that people constantly talk about when ranking cities is totally shaken up here as Paris has a considerably smaller concentration of ultra high net worth individuals than both Los Angeles AND San Francisco and is even narrowly beaten by Osaka, with HK right on it's heels.
So I guess what this means is that Mexico City is only marginally less attractive, desirable, influential and important as a global city than Paris is?
So I guess what this means is that Mexico City is only marginally less attractive, desirable, influential and important as a global city than Paris is?
And Osaka is more important than Paris, Shanghai, or Beijing apparently.
Individuals Worth $30 Millon+, 2013 Top 10 Cities
1 New York 8,025
2 London 6,360 3 Tokyo 6,015 4 Los Angeles 4,945 5 San Francisco 4,840 6 Osaka 3,300
7 Paris 3,195 8 Hong Kong 3,180
9 Mexico City 2,695
10 Washington DC 2,675
The often lauded 'top 4' cities in the world(NY, London, Paris, Tokyo) that people constantly talk about when ranking cities is totally shaken up here as Paris has a considerably smaller concentration of ultra high net worth individuals than both Los Angeles AND San Francisco and is even narrowly beaten by Osaka, with HK right on it's heels.
Wealth and money are good measures of power and influence (unfortunately). So yes, looking at concentrations of wealth is a great way to measure power and influence. Can anyone suggest a better way?
Also, intuitively, when you think of great cities, you think San Francisco before Moscow. I have lived in different parts of Asia and America (more than 5 yeasr in a stretch), and based on experience, San Francisco always comes first to people's mind. Not saying that's an accurate measure of "influence" but it's something.
Again, where is Toronto? Have we established that Moscow is more important and powerful than Toronto?
So I guess what this means is that Mexico City is only marginally less attractive, desirable, influential and important as a global city than Paris is?
Actually what it DOES mean is that in all likelihood, despite the hype and regard heaped upon Paris, at the end of the day, looked down upon Mexico City only has marginally less ultra high net worth individuals.
Im convinced that the issue of power and influence in cities has less to do with history, architecture etc and more to do with the kinds of people who live in them.
Wealth and money are good measures of power and influence (unfortunately). So yes, looking at concentrations of wealth is a great way to measure power and influence.
No it's not, because in the modern world the cities are not going at wars with other powerful and influencial cities directly, as it used to be in earlier times in history, but the decisions that truly influence the turn of events are made through politicians, who might work/reside in some ( financially) more modest cities.
Well, Moscow's hockey team is probably better in recent years. Though who knows, the Maple Leafs are looking pretty good this year.
Dynamo Moscow vs. Leafs vs. Sharks! Tough call between Dynamo and Leafs as have the second most cups, but nothing recently. Dynamo numerous championships in the various leagues. Sharks have nothing, but starting the year strong.
Dynamo Moscow vs. Leafs vs. Sharks! Tough call between Dynamo and Leafs as have the second most cups, but nothing recently. Dynamo numerous championships in the various leagues. Sharks have nothing, but starting the year strong.
Sharks are looking really good this year. Hertl was a great draft pick and playing on a line with Thornton has helped both of them. Though as a Sharks fan since their first season(back when they played at the Cow Palace), I've learned to be cautiously optimisitic regarding early successes with them since they often falter in the playoffs.
Maple Leafs are finally getting a good team together, but for years they've been the New York Knicks of the NHL. Fun fact though, the last time Toronto won a Stanley Cup, the current oldest player in the NHL, Teemu Selanne, wouldn't even be born for another three years and Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band had just been released.
Again, where is Toronto? Have we established that Moscow is more important and powerful than Toronto?
The reason is because Toronto is more inwardly focused on Canada. It is the business center of Canada but the industries for the most part don't have as much global influence like the way SF/SV companies/technologies do. SF/SV also has among the highest concentration of wealthy people (many self made), talented workforce, economic productivity levels and some of the best educational institutions in the world (Stanford, Berk). Toronto is a very well rounded city but it is more focused on Canada which is a country of 34 million. Although Canada is a top 10 country GDP-wise so it does garner prominence from this. It is also not the political center of Canada like Moscow is and Russian interactions with US/China/Iran/Former USSR states/etc. are globally important. Moscow also houses a lot of oil power whereas the oil resources/head offices in Canada are mostly out west. In terms of social influence, SF has had some famous movements and Moscow has a much longer storied history in terms of culture and the sciences as well. So for these reasons I would say SF and Moscow have more global importance/influence.
Last edited by johnathanc; 10-23-2013 at 02:38 PM..
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