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View Poll Results: Italy or Spain?
Italy 41 43.16%
Spain 54 56.84%
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Old 10-29-2013, 01:12 AM
 
Location: Rathdrum, ID
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Some years, I go to Buenos Aires or Montevideo for my yearly vacation; but usually I go to Europe. For some reason, I keep returning to Italy, and am seriously considering it as a part-time retirement home.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Seville Spain
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Espanha.
Because it is closer to where you really want to be...Portugal! OK, so I am biased!
Cant say really because never been to Italy but life here in Seville is VERY nice.Well, it was even better before the $$$ crash hit.Hard question to answer....its like asking who is a better team,Barca or Real Madrid? RM of course because they have that Ronaldo guy ....from PORTUGAL!!
Its all good.
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Old 10-29-2013, 06:56 AM
 
Location: Barcelona, Spain
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Oddly enough, diaspora Italians have been quite different, retaining that energy but turning it to much more pleasant interaction.
Certainly, seems that a lot of diaspora Italians are a bit ashamed at most of the typical Italian behavior and the way things run in their country, at least based on my experience with the Italians I know.

Which, incidentally, also happens with a lot of Spaniards abroad. Guess dysfunctional countries will do that to you once you get out and look at it from the distance.
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Old 10-29-2013, 07:10 AM
 
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Spain - and in a wide margin.
I've been to both and I just don't connect with Italy (moreover, my location in France is much closer to Spain)
- Spanish is a world language (and I manage to speak it, albeit not fluently)
- Italy is smaller, population is more important, -add to that the throng of tourists, it's also the case in Spain , but only in summer, and the density being lower, it's not as bad-
- I'm more interested in Spain's history (world empire), culture and art (less hyped up as Italian art)
- I love glamenco and guitar, and the Spanish language in my book is the second best language for singing after English - and I can't stand Italian opera and bel canto, so corny.
- few people acknowledge it, but Spain is on the whole more southern than Italy (whose northern part is nearly central European), meaning a better climate on average (there is no Italian equivalent to the subtropical Canary islands).
- Life is 20-30% cheaper in Spain
- infrastructures are much better (hotels, supermarkets, roads, trains) and modern
- you've got ATMs everywhere and Visa is accepted by most stores- not the case in Italy
- although they are as festive-if not more- than the Italians , the Spanish people appear less boisterous and less noisy - a big plus for me.
So my conclusion : Espana por favor!
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Italy for me because I enjoy studying the ancient Roman culture and find historic cities such as Rome to be very fascinating and enjoyable. Plus I've met a couple of Italians, whom of which were friendly.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:00 PM
 
Location: In the heights
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Italy. I like both but Italy seems to be a bit more exciting and the people more animated.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:21 PM
 
Location: IL
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I'll tell you next year after I visit Spain. I have spent time in Italy and enjoyed it thoroughly, although getting things done was a hassle.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Europe
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I don't know because I live in one of them, but about Italy I like that almost every point is not far from the beaches, but as negative point Italian transport is terrible!!! I find Spain moe organized.
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:48 AM
 
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Italy has better public transportation than Spain?!?

You don't know waht you are talking about: Spain's public transportation is futuristic compared to Italy's one.

An example; Rome (2.800.000 inhabitants) has just... er... two subway lines, Madrid (3,265,038 inhabitants) has THIRTEEN subway lines.

Agree...but Rome can't build new subway lines because archeaologic finds are incessant...But Spain's infrastructure is much better for the only reason that everything is brand new. Spanish are also more organized, militarised, Italy is anarchic. I guess that Italy is nice to visit, but Spain is better to live.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:37 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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... Italy is anarchic ...
Not exactly. The Italian state is organized well enough that it protects the interests of the oligarchy that comprises it and hurts you the taxpayer, and not organized well enough that it provides benefits such as more or less equal economic opportunities for all, including good infrastructure, instead it enforces mediocre results on a declining trajectory for everyone (except themselves of course).
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