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Old 12-25-2013, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Amherst, mA
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Originally Posted by Ariete View Post
Some 60% of the foreign nationals in Finland are of European origin (including ex USSR), that leaves us 95,830 foreign nationals with non-European origin, 3 times your estimate. And what about their offspring if a parent gets a Finnish nationality, then the kids are lost in stats forever as they become only Finnish? Finnish citizenship have been given to 50,000 people in the last 10 years, and within time when they register as a student, marry, or else, they too are lost in the stats as they are recorded as Finnish.

I looked at native language. Hindi, Khmer, Chinese, Korea, Somali, Thai, Hausa, Wolof, Oromo and Kazakh, and came up with 33,096 people. Already that is more than your estimate. All these are with 99% probability "not white" according to your criteria.

So if your estimates are so much off for a small nation as Finland, how credible are your other estimates?
And I don't know which university you went to, but I'm used to back up my claims with facts and sources, not telling other to "grow up" or referring to your own credentials, which may be bogus as well. Who knows? Or asking to send an e-mail to some obscure address?
Or are you just fishing for actual stats that people could give you, so you can make real estimates in some neo-nazi collective?

Oh and im counting Turks and ALL USSR peoples in my data collecting for Finland, Ukraine, and Latvia.

 
Old 12-25-2013, 04:28 PM
 
Location: Auburn, New York
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And you are deliberaltey questioning me on christmas. Do you have anything better to do? If you read i did European populations. Did i do malta or cyprus? NO! Greeks are European whilst Turkish people arent. All I do is make projections, i dont classify people as white or black or arab. So please spend time with your family!
This really isn't worth my time to respond, but I will nonetheless. Race is messy, muddled, and complicated. As I'm sure you know, being someone who supposedly gets paid to do this, any respectable methodology on racial demographics must take these complications into account. I just don't see that level of nuance, attention, and professionalism in neither your research nor your writing. If you chose to exclude Turks, Arabs, and Persians, fine, but you should have a reason for doing so considering their shared history, shared genealogy, and proximity to the northern shore of the Mediterranean.

And for someone who is tired of
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ignorant raicists who cant accept the fact that europe isnt 100% white anymore
you sure make a lot of ignorant assumptions about my religious, cultural, and family traditions.

Enjoy your evening. Good night. Best of luck with your research.

Last edited by Dawn.Davenport; 12-25-2013 at 04:39 PM..
 
Old 12-25-2013, 04:42 PM
 
Location: Amherst, mA
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Hint: europeans are not turks, iranian, or arabic!

And thanks for taking my advice
 
Old 12-25-2013, 04:46 PM
 
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I hope you enjoyed this list, everyone!
I won't question your motives but I am wondering *who* can "enjoy" such a list, except a racist. Help me out?

note: when you write "All Former Yugoslavian countries", one sort of wonders how dated/extrapolated your sources really are..
 
Old 12-25-2013, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Beautiful Pelham Parkway,The Bronx
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Here I have a list of all More Developed Nations by their, White Non-Hispanic, non-Turkish or non-Arab populations or their European ethnic populations (Non Romani).

I am a professional demographer, so I have access to these materials. Note: If your select country does not appear below... just ask! And these stats are from 2012, so censuses conducted in 2010 or 2011 have been updated to fit this match! This should help with an AP Human Geography or other Demographics class. I plan on doing a Islamic Faith, Ethnic Hispanic-Mestizo or Latino, Ethnic African, and Ethnic Asian list by country too, so stay connected folks!

(Andorra, Caribbean, Liechtenstein, San Marino, Vatican City, and Monaco don't have adequate sources)

Latvia:100%
Lithuania: 99.94%
Belarus: 99.9%
Estonia: 99.85%
Poland: 99.8%
Finland: 99.5%
Slovakia: 99.1%
Portugal: 98.9%
Iceland: 98.3%
Albania: 98.0%
The Ukraine: 97.8%
All Former Yugoslavian Countries: 97.4%
Czech Republic: 97.0%
Greece: 96.3%
Italy: 95.5%
Switzerland: 95.4%
Austria: 94.6%
Ireland: 94.3%
Denmark: 93.8%
Belgium: 93.0%
Spain: 92.9%
Russia: 92.4%
Romania: 92.2%
Luxembourg: 91.8%
Norway: 91.5%
Sweden: 90.4%
Germany: 89.2%
Argentina: 88.5% (~75% White, 25% Mestizo, Population an additional 8%)
Bulgaria: 88.0%
The Netherlands: 87.0%
The UK: 86.7%
France: 86.4%
Israel: 82.9%
Australia: 80.5% - 83.3%
Canada: 75.0%
Uruguay: 68.9%
New Zealand: 67.3%
The United States Of America: 62.7% (73.4% in the North Half, 50.2% in the South Half)
Chile: 44.9%
Brazil: 32.3% (Only Full European, or mostly European)
South Africa: 8.0%
India: 3.1%
Zimbabwe: 1.7%
Angola: 1.3%
Iran: 0.9%
Turkey: 0.4% (Some Estimates say 20-30%, in the European part)
Japan: 0.2%
Nigeria: 0.1%
China: 0.1%



I hope you enjoyed this list, everyone!
Italians,Greeks and Spaniards? They are considered "white" but Turks are not ?

I was brought up to believe that none of those people are white and I don't see much difference between them……and Israelis for that matter.So how can there be such big differences between the "demographics" ?

Who decided that Italians and Greeks are "white" and Turks are not ? They all look the same and none of them look "white" really.
 
Old 12-25-2013, 05:47 PM
 
Location: Brisbane
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We'll Australia and New Zealand look about correct.


Why is Australia the only country on the list with a range estimate?

Last edited by danielsa1775; 12-25-2013 at 06:28 PM..
 
Old 12-25-2013, 06:30 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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I'm sorry, we did not include the MENA populations as they are not European.
You sure about that? The US Census Bureau's 2012 estimate has 63% of the American population being white alone, and they include persons of North African and Middle Eastern descent in that percentage. The statistic isn't far off from the 62.7% you quote.
 
Old 12-25-2013, 06:53 PM
 
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In the end, you mean people with Europeans origin.. Not white. Change your title. You are even excluding Hispanic-American referring themselves as white... Which can mean full origin Spanish people.
 
Old 12-25-2013, 08:44 PM
 
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In the end, you mean people with Europeans origin.. Not white. Change your title. You are even excluding Hispanic-American referring themselves as white... Which can mean full origin Spanish people.
I noticed this too quite weird...

Did a quick Wikipedia

72.4% (including Hispanics who identified as white) of total U.S. population, 2010.
 
Old 12-25-2013, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Earth
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If you read my post more carefully, I wrote European origin. Iran s an Arab + Middle Eastern Country which I said, does not count. And furthermore, Argentina's example of White can be oover 50%% white, but set my settings and drew my line at 75% white.
You want to find a surefire way to **** off an Iranian? Call him an Arab. They're Persian, not Arab, and I'm not convinced that you're a demographer.
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