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Note NYC commuter rail and DC metro riders are actually slightly wealthier than the general population. NYC subway riders are about the same, while NYC bus riders are somewhat poorer but not drastically different. Percent of bus riders with a household income of $100k or more:
Not surprised. Japanese and South Koreans buy a lot of cars. After all they're among the prominent car manufacturers of the world lol. The Chinese drive a lot too. Traffic gridlock is a serious issue that city managers have in the major first and second tier second cities. More roads and highways are built at breakneck speed. It reminds me of the time after WW2 when our country built the interstates. When I lived in China, I saw that most of the cars on the road were Japanese cars. I asked a cab driver why and he said "even we don't buy Chinese cars, they're not good enough for us." Lol.
People in Hong Kong and Singapore are actually living in a way that isn't the norm globally but unless they've ever left and lived abroad they don't know. It's so tiring, painful, arduous, inconvenient and sad using mass transit everyday and as a fate for life to death. Not only is it as bad as it sounds it's much worse. In North America and Europe, those of us who use mass transit generally live right downtown in a small catchment of houses and apartments in downtown and midtown. In those microstates, people everywhere take mass transit even those that live in the boonies. They literally take it daily from their apartment in the boonies to downtown for work daily.
I felt bad for them everyday when I was there. I felt bad for myself too but I knew I'll be out.
Funny, while I find life in Singapore a bit stressful at times, I envy Singapore and it's MRT and how it's so easy to get everywhere it it. It's better than being stuck in a stupid traffic jam day after day everyday. That way of life isn't exactly abnormal, people in New York, London, Paris, Tokyo, Beijing, Shanghai.etc for instance.
I'm not talking about the state of your mass transit.
I'm talking about having and using a car daily versus having to take mass transit in any city which you don't understand because based on 90% odds you have never owned a car.
You're reacting because you're getting personal. You immediately thought I was talking about your mass transit rather than having to take mass transit and not being able to own a car as a matter of personal choice because of your place of birth. It's consistent with the pattern I noticed while there. Getting personal. And inability to accept any dissenting viewpoint of your country. The only acceptable viewpoint to your people of your country from foreigners is the fawning one. Only an inferiority complex can explain such a syndrome. And when anything less than fawning is expressed, their response is to claim "respect". They were never used to divergence of viewpoints in society, it's new to them, so they are finding it hard coping with new infusions of attitudes from elsewhere brought in by short term residents. They're currently experiencing a surge in nationalism and social crack lines.
Enjoy riding the bus. I'm out.
But most Singaporeans don't need a car, because you can get almost anywhere pretty easily with public transit, can you understand that? I think most Singaporeans are rather proud of that fact.
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As for Australia, like America some people definitely do have a derisive attitude towards public transport, but it's not associated with poverty. It seems even the poorest people here have cars. Car ownership is of course very common/widespread but there's a big push for public transport, and I think slowly, more people are using it, as they realise what a pain in the arse commuting can be.
But most Singaporeans don't need a car, because you can get almost anywhere pretty easily with public transit, can you understand that? I think most Singaporeans are rather proud of that fact, so please don't feel sorry for them, feel sorry for yourself 'sad' girl lol.
As i mentioned, i dunno why .. But sadgirl80 and Singapore just well.. like water and oil.. dun mix..
Yes , We Singaporean dun feel sad for ourselves, and we dun need outsider to feel sad for us when we dun feel sad for ourself
As i mentioned, i dunno why .. But sadgirl80 and Singapore just well.. like water and oil.. dun mix..
Yes , We Singaporean dun feel sad for ourselves, and we dun need outsider to feel sad for us when we dun feel sad for ourself
No you/we 'dun' haha...sorry to pick on u but I noticed another Singaporean says 'dun' online for don't, i wonder if that's a Singaporean thing?
But yeah, sadgirl just doesn't jive with S'pore. Singapore has it's fair share of critics, though, and in fact Singaporeans can be very self-critical of Singapore and are unhappy of some things happening there. So a lot of them don't think things are always rosy in the city state. In fact just look at the number of blogs, articles, videos on youtube about Singaporeans self-deprecating nature haha.
Although everywhere I have worked here in Germany most people have driven to work there is no stigma about taking public transportation. If you work in the city and have a train stop where you live or live it the same city it is often better.
If you don´t want to sit with the riffraff you can get a 1st class ticket.
My commute now would be no fun with public transport but when I worked in Karlsruhe I took the train all the time although I did drive to the train station. I drive / bike about 50/50 it takes me 25 Minutes by car 35 by bike and would be more than an hour with bus and train.
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