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View Poll Results: Which city is better ?
Dallas 35 43.75%
Perth 45 56.25%
Voters: 80. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-05-2014, 09:22 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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I don't even have to look at data or anything else to know that Perth would blow away Dallas.

Just boring as hell and so hot in summer you can't even walk around. Boring because the "downtown" if you want to call it that, is just ugly office towers with nary a soul around on a weekend in July. Meanwhile Perth at least has gorgeous beaches.
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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For it's size Dallas seems kind of boring, same with Houston. I've been through Houston and it looked pretty lacklustre for a city with it's population. Sydney and Melbourne could quite easily blow those cities away in terms of culture, vibrancy, diversity.etc.

For sure I would agree with this. Those types of cities in the US are just sprawl giants. Lol at Houston bragging all the time about passing Philly in population. Can't even compare the two.

2013 population density (people per sq mi):

Dallas 3,518
Houston 3,501
Philadelphia 11,379
Boston 12,793
Chicago 11,842



Now guess which of the above are cities in the real sense, and not just suburban sprawl as far as the eye can see, with a bunch of big buildings plopped down in the middle?
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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Yeah Houston is just because of Hispanics...and blacks are just Americans, anyway.

Sydney is more international, diverse, walkable, with a better downtown, beautiful, visited by way more tourists than Houston (for it's sights), better food. Just a far, far superior city. Enough with your Texas is best BS, Houston and Dallas are dumps, I wouldn't want to live there.

Lol, you are having your first encounter with something Americans have to deal with all the time. The unbelievable outsized egos of Texans in general. It is sooo tiring to hear about how wonderful Texas is and how it is the best state, etc. etc. Their state pride is moronic imo.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Austin
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Yeah I get tired of hearing people complain about Texas. Well if one doesn't like it, they don't have to live here. Also I will give props to Preth, it does have a great skyline and well as beautiful beaches.

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Old 09-05-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Austin
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The OP could have done Austin, TX vs. Perth. Now that would have been interesting.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:50 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA - Seattle, WA - Manila, PH
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For sure I would agree with this. Those types of cities in the US are just sprawl giants. Lol at Houston bragging all the time about passing Philly in population. Can't even compare the two.

2013 population density (people per sq mi):

Dallas 3,518
Houston 3,501
Philadelphia 11,379
Boston 12,793
Chicago 11,842



Now guess which of the above are cities in the real sense, and not just suburban sprawl as far as the eye can see, with a bunch of big buildings plopped down in the middle?

Since you went to so much trouble researching cities that are not the topic of this thread, do you care to inform us the population density numbers for Perth? Thank you so very much.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:16 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Exactly!

Look at Sydney. Excessive "diverse" immigration has turned once clean & tidy suburbs into slums resembling a warzone. Suburbs like Auburn, Lakemba, Bankstown, Cabramatta etc.

Yet look at the Sutherland Shire (southern suburbs) which is virtually all white and see all the clean tidy streets with lawns mowed, edges clipped, no smashed up cars covering the front yards etc.
Auburn, Bankstown and Lakemba are rather old suburbs. Their achitecture would date in all these years. This has nothing to do with the people dwelling in them and their race. And you're comparing lush, rich neighbourhoods (Sutherland shire) with newly built homes, to the older ones in the midwest with rather antique looking houses. How is that fair? And FYI, only Cabramatta isn't white. Lebanese and Turkish people, which make up those suburbs are as Caucasian as you are.

Heck, some neighbourhoods in the inner west (which has a predominantly white population) look rather 'slummy'. Check out these old, conjoint single-storey houses that resemble something out of a horror movie:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....a86w!2e0?hl=en

Now compare these rather claustrophobic "slums" of the above to the beautiful neighbourhoods in the outer west, where most of the people there are of Middle Eastern (Assyrian/Iranian), Indian and Asian descent:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...1632c810?hl=en

You see, I can play the 'race card' as well.

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Old 09-06-2014, 03:34 AM
 
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One would think that in 2014 with all this technology, a poll could have multiple columns, for example "have been to both", "have been to Perth", "have been to Dallas", "have not been to either so am talking out of...".

Those polls often boil down to which city suffers from the worst stereotype. Dallas is in Texas so other than in a thread with Phoenix, Houston, Atlanta or maybe Kandahar, it's always going to lose. The stereotype is just too strong.

Hm...wouldn't this be the reverse? I'd wager more people have actually been to Dallas rather than Perth, so Perth is more likely to suffer from stereotyping than Dallas.
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Old 09-07-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Hunter Valley, NSW, Australia
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Auburn, Bankstown and Lakemba are rather old suburbs. Their achitecture would date in all these years. This has nothing to do with the people dwelling in them and their race. And you're comparing lush, rich neighbourhoods (Sutherland shire) with newly built homes, to the older ones in the midwest with rather antique looking houses. How is that fair? And FYI, only Cabramatta isn't white. Lebanese and Turkish people, which make up those suburbs are as Caucasian as you are.

Heck, some neighbourhoods in the inner west (which has a predominantly white population) look rather 'slummy'. Check out these old, conjoint single-storey houses that resemble something out of a horror movie:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/@-33....a86w!2e0?hl=en

Now compare these rather claustrophobic "slums" of the above to the beautiful neighbourhoods in the outer west, where most of the people there are of Middle Eastern (Assyrian/Iranian), Indian and Asian descent:

https://www.google.com.au/maps/place...1632c810?hl=en

You see, I can play the 'race card' as well.
Come off it! That street in Bossley Pk would be mostly whites & Italians that have been in the country for 50 years or so. Believe me I know the area well. My first 28 years were spent there.
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Old 09-08-2014, 02:45 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Come off it! That street in Bossley Pk would be mostly whites & Italians that have been in the country for 50 years or so. Believe me I know the area well. My first 28 years were spent there.
I actually live right around Bossley Park.

The suburb is mainly made up of Assyrians. Italians are the third populated group there. Other common ethnicities include Chilean, Vietnamese, Iraqi Arab and Filipino. Oh, and mind you, the suburb (as you saw in the streetview) looks rather tidy, despite its diversity.

Just because a suburb is more diverse and mixed doesn't mean that it will look rundown and slummy. It just depends on when it was built - Older suburbs; older 'slummy' homes, newer suburbs; modern nicer homes. Your example was kind of unfair because the areas you 'antagonised' are ancient in contrast to the outer west and Sutherland shire. Strathfield and Ashfield have one of the most oldest built residential and commercial areas in the west. So of course they wouldn't look incredibly tidy.

Bossley Park's demographics:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bossley_Park#Demographics

Greenfield Park, Cecil Park and Prairiewood's demographics (nearby tidy-looking suburbs mainly made up of 'ethnic' people):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenf...les#Population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prairi...les#Population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_...ew_South_Wales
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