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Old 05-28-2011, 03:27 PM
 
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As posted previously, the biggest factor in the reported crime rates is how much point the citizens think there is in reporting a crime. Not how much crime actually happens.

Except murders, they tend to be investigated regardless, so they are somewhat fit for comparison.

 
Old 06-28-2011, 01:33 AM
 
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Old 04-12-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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Glasgow isn't London, you're talking a hole different ball game when you talk about Glasgow, whether Americans want to believe it or not Glasgow is on a par with the most violent of cities in the western world and when they talk about violence its not only gun or knive crime, its because in Scotland when you're on the street or leave a bar then you are approx 3 to 5 times more likely to be involved in a violent attack or crime than most other developed cities, violent crime happens in Scotland for the sake of it, there's no real reason behind it other than they might not like the look of you or you might have something they want, I live in a village with a population of around 3,500 people and I see violence on a daily basis now when you take into account Glasgow is the fourth largest city in Britain then you just might start to get the picture of just how violent it is and Scotland as a whole is probably classed as one of the most violent countries in the western world !!!
 
Old 04-13-2012, 07:36 AM
 
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Glasgow isn't London, you're talking a hole different ball game when you talk about Glasgow, whether Americans want to believe it or not Glasgow is on a par with the most violent of cities in the western world and when they talk about violence its not only gun or knive crime, its because in Scotland when you're on the street or leave a bar then you are approx 3 to 5 times more likely to be involved in a violent attack or crime than most other developed cities, violent crime happens in Scotland for the sake of it, there's no real reason behind it other than they might not like the look of you or you might have something they want, I live in a village with a population of around 3,500 people and I see violence on a daily basis now when you take into account Glasgow is the fourth largest city in Britain then you just might start to get the picture of just how violent it is and Scotland as a whole is probably classed as one of the most violent countries in the western world !!!
I don't think Glasgow is on a par with many US Cities. I always found Glasgow quite a nice city, and one which has seen massive investment in recent decades. Fair enough Glasgow has twice the murder rate of London, and over a quarter of the 78 murders in Scotland took place in Glasgow, but this still accounts for a murder rate of 3.3 per 100,000. Compare this with some US Cities such as Philadelphia which has a murder rate of 19.6 per 100,000 or Baltimore which has over ten times the murder rate of Glasgow with a massive 34.8 per 100,000 or Washington DC with 21.9 per 100,000 or St Louis with 40 per 100,000 or New Orleans with nearly 50 per 100,000.

If Glasgow was in the US it would have one of the lowest murder rates of any major city of it's size. Whilst Glasgow may have one of the highest murder rates in Western Europe, I think it would be an exageration to claim it was one of the most dangerous places in the Western World. As for the highest murder rate in Western Europe doesn't that belong to Helsinki in Finland with 12.5 murders per 100,000.

It should also be noted that there is a big difference between serious violent crime and more low level crimes sometimes recorded as violent crimes by police, and it is serious violent crime that is the important figure when looking at recorded crime data.

In terms of Glasgow I recently read that the city had been succesful in reducing gang-related violence, and that the city was employing fresh approaches and initiatives in order to cut violent crime


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotlan...-west-14012001

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/20...-cuts-violence





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Old 04-13-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Glasgow isn't as murderous as certain US cities but for UK and European standards it is violent.

'' The rate of killings is 60 per cent higher north of the Border.
The contrast is even starker when compared to other European nations, with Scotland’s homicide rate two-and-a-half times that in Germany''

Glasgow is Britain's murder capital, claims new survey - The Daily Record

Grim truth behind Scottish knife crime | Herald Scotland

Like others though I probably read to much into the "studies'' and the usual ''blown out of proportion'' media we have, most of Glasgow is safe with the violence being mainly in a few housing estates. In Europe it is a fairly violent city, but the studies saying it is the most violent city in the developed world are wrong, and after a bit of research it is plain to see American cities are more violent.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 07:29 AM
 
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When exactly are you people going to listen that the stats aren't based on murder rates, yes granted yous have a far worse murder rate but what I have read on here on countless posts is people trying to get the point across to yous that's its about violent attacks that don't result solely in murder, now this is where Scotland comes into the statistic of being one of the most violent countries in the western world ok, now stop being you're usual patronising stereotypical American that presumes if it don't happen in America then it don't happen anywhere, its sounds to me like yous are proud of being one of the most violent cultures on the planet, put it like this violent crime per head of population is worse in Scotland and this crap that everyone must run to the coppers as soon as they see anything is bull**** as well, the UK is the most watch country in the world by CCTV so there is you're reason for so many attacks being caught by police !
 
Old 04-17-2012, 10:41 AM
 
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When exactly are you people going to listen that the stats aren't based on murder rates, yes granted yous have a far worse murder rate but what I have read on here on countless posts is people trying to get the point across to yous that's its about violent attacks that don't result solely in murder, now this is where Scotland comes into the statistic of being one of the most violent countries in the western world ok, now stop being you're usual patronising stereotypical American that presumes if it don't happen in America then it don't happen anywhere, its sounds to me like yous are proud of being one of the most violent cultures on the planet, put it like this violent crime per head of population is worse in Scotland and this crap that everyone must run to the coppers as soon as they see anything is bull**** as well, the UK is the most watch country in the world by CCTV so there is you're reason for so many attacks being caught by police !
The last Strathclyde police figures I can find, show violent crime to be well down and only 3,333 with Serious Assaults recorded by the police.

BBC News - Violent crime drop in Strathclyde

As for Common Assaults they were up slightly, but they constitute very minor assaults and scuffles.

Glasgow probably does have higher violent crime figures when compared to other UK Cities and indeed some European Cities, but it is hardly Johannesburg or Baltimore.
 
Old 04-17-2012, 10:53 AM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, BC
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I think this thread has been more than thoroughly chewed over and I can't see there be anything new to add that would change people's opinions.

Besides, as the saying goes ....

“Statistics are like bikinis. What they reveal is interesting and what they conceal is significant”
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