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Old 03-12-2014, 03:37 AM
 
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Et then you really want to give here as evidence of Nazi footage chronicles? Even forgetting the fact that it was in Riga, was the worst death camp?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salaspi...camp]Salaspils concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Maybe it is and wants to tell the world Russia that the authorities vUkranie those praslavlyaet SS death squads number of Ukrainians?

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Old 03-12-2014, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Et then you really want to give here as evidence of Nazi footage chronicles? Even forgetting the fact that it was in Riga, was the worst death camp?
You don't see the similarities? The Germans were occupiers though the Latvians greeted them as liberators. So are the Russian Putin-fascists. Violating international law and sovereignty of Ukraine. Even if the brainwashed Crimeans think that some nazi-clique has seized power in Kiev and cheer the Russian occupants doesn't make it legal or right. The Crimean Tatars are fleeing Crimea, and pro Ukrainian people have been beaten.

"SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The arrival of Russian troops in Crimea has opened old wounds among the Crimean Tatars, who were deported during World War II. Fearing that once again they will be unwelcome in their homeland, some are organizing community-watch patrols to protect their families and homes in a place they strongly feel should remain part of Ukraine."


Crimean Tatars fear return of Russian rule

"Liberators" for one, "SS" for another.
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Old 03-12-2014, 03:54 AM
 
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You don't see the similarities? The Germans were occupiers though the Latvians greeted them as liberators. So are the Russian Putin-fascists. Violating international law and sovereignty of Ukraine. Even if the brainwashed Crimeans think that some nazi-clique has seized power in Kiev and cheer the Russian occupants doesn't make it legal or right. The Crimean Tatars are fleeing Crimea, and pro Ukrainian people have been beaten.

"SIMFEROPOL, Ukraine (AP) — The arrival of Russian troops in Crimea has opened old wounds among the Crimean Tatars, who were deported during World War II. Fearing that once again they will be unwelcome in their homeland, some are organizing community-watch patrols to protect their families and homes in a place they strongly feel should remain part of Ukraine."


Crimean Tatars fear return of Russian rule

"Liberators" for one, "SS" for another.
Certainly Crimean Tatars do not like Russia. After the Second World War, almost all Tatars took the side of Nazi Germany, after which they were all deported to Siberia. This story, and no one hides. Another question, why when an armed mob breaks into a government building, killing people, threatens, robs and looting- this is called a peaceful demonstration for European values​​. And when thousands of people with flags meet Russian - it's bad and fascism. Is not there a double standard?
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:07 AM
 
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Another question, why when an armed mob breaks into a government building, killing people, threatens, robs and looting- this is called a peaceful demonstration for European values​​. And when thousands of people with flags meet Russian - it's bad and fascism. Is not there a double standard?
Yanukovych is a corrupt liar and a murderer who stole from the people. The people have all the right to oust such a president.
Putin on the other hand has no right to steal territory from another country.

What robberies and looters? There hasn't been any such things in Kiev. Kiev is completely peaceful.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:13 AM
 
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Yanukovych is a corrupt liar and a murderer who stole from the people. The people have all the right to oust such a president.
Putin on the other hand has no right to steal territory from another country.

What robberies and looters? There hasn't been any such things in Kiev. Kiev is completely peaceful.
I already threw the video here on how many were " peaceful " demonstrators in Kiev. Lie about it besmyslenno . As for Yanukovych - he zakonnoizbranny president of Ukraine . And if you do not like it , then what's the European Union , the monuments , the winners of fascism (which almost all demolished and destroyed ) and the law of the Russian language ? While making new (illegal power) , it seems that freedom and wealth in Ukraine prevented synagogues , monuments and Russian. What is now happening in the Ukraine , 100% similar with the coming to power of Hitler .
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:27 AM
 
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What is now happening in the Ukraine , 100% similar with the coming to power of Hitler .
I expect John Kerry will play the part of Neville Chamberlain.
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:54 AM
 
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<p>By the Constitution of Ukraine the president become not legitimate in three ways: death, he Š¾fficially announce the resignation, or impŠµŠ°hment. Any of this way was applied. So, Yanukovich is a president yet.</p>
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Old 03-12-2014, 04:55 AM
 
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I expect John Kerry will play the part of Neville Chamberlain.
Already ....
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Old 03-12-2014, 05:44 AM
 
Location: Twin Cities (StP)
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Russians are doing nothing different than the USA would do. Both countries are ran by hypocrites.
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Old 03-12-2014, 09:17 AM
 
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My country, which has paid ~26000000 lives for the victory over fascism and which is now trying to prevent its revival in Ukraine - it is now declared as a stronghold of evil. Gorgeous. Crimea? He was transferred to Ukraine at a time when it was part of a federation - the USSR. USSR, as you know, has collapsed. Now Ukraine has as much right to that territory, and as Russia . Everything will be decided in a referendum.

I'm not talking about the illegitimacy of the current "government" in Ukraine. I thought it is obvious to all countries with a long enough history of development of democratic institutions. Many times we have already suggested the Americans to imagine the analogy of what was happening in Ukraine. On the example of their own country. Would they consider the government, which would be appointed by an infinitesimal percentage of the American population - legitimate? (On the background of burning alive guys with helmets , whose only fault was that they did not change the oath to their homeland and were not responding to violence as long as the "peaceful demonstrators" have started to shoot them)

Are you familiar with the word "provocation"? Just ask yourself a simple question. Why Assad in Syria needs to kill the civilians? Is it fun, is it profitable? Why the president of Ukraine gave the order to fire at peaceful demonstrators? There is no logic. Or maybe they were not quite peaceful? Just the day before the bloodshed shooting from military depots was stolen about 1,500 rifles and other weapons. And right after that bloody government began to shoot at the crowd. Suddenly. Yeah, yeah. (Presently it was returned just a few weapons. I know you find it difficult to understand - you are allowed to have weapons at home, legally. But now in Ukraine about 1500 guns are not clear in whose hands and it is a serious threat to stability in the country)

And then ask yourself a second question: Who wanted an escalation of violence? Who was afraid to remain in the minority in the referendum on the fate of Ukraine? Why was not done any independent research to bullets of snipers who were shooting at people on the Maidan?? Who needed the corpse of the current president? The corpse, as it would be the official termination of his authority, and the ensurance that the blood on the Maidan would be forgotten.

By the way, remember Libya. How it all comfortable and well finished there. Colonel was beheaded and organizers beautifully planted on the throne those who should be there. No questions, no complaints, no investigation.

Sorry, sorry, sorry for bad language. I tried, I tried.

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