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Old 03-14-2014, 05:01 AM
 
Location: Satellite Of Love
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Don't expect to see a proper judeochristian culture anywhere until kingdom come.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Maybe if India takes over the role as the world's factory, but it's too far into the future. And on what basis they do predict India with supersede China? On population alone?
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:37 AM
 
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Maybe if India takes over the role as the world's factory, but it's too far into the future. And on what basis they do predict India with supersede China? On population alone?
India's secondary sector is really small…
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:10 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Consider that the rate of change in the world is doubling, and can be expected to continue to do so. So anything that happens in the next 40 years can be as dramatic as anything that has happened in the last 80. Which would be equivalent to the turnover that has occurred since the Great Depression in the USA.

This is not to say that India will necessarily be the beneficiary of future accelerated turnabouts, but there is no reason to exclude it from contention.
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Old 03-14-2014, 02:54 PM
 
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An excellent best-selling book in this subject is The Post-American World - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . Look for it at your local library. The Indian-born author is editor-at-large of TIME magazine, and host of a weekly show on CNN.

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Old 03-14-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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The British Empire did during colonialism, but prior to that and now, I don't think that's the case at all.
Ever heard of math, science, and arts? We've borrowed these discoveries from Greater India and other Asian nations way before colonization and to this day. The very computer you're reading this on is based on mathematics discovered in Greater India.
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:31 PM
 
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Although I don't disagree with you in regards to the many hypocrisies of Judeo-Christian-sourced Western morality, let's be fair: Dalit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Trying to whitewash India or any other country's discriminatory and inhumane cultural foibles doesn't do anyone any favors.
You act like that's the norm in India. It's not and restricted to small rural areas. While studying economics at Princeton, I had the opportunity to do research an India (not my cup of tea, btw). You have quite a bit to learn about the nation if you feel that the caste system is prominent in modern greater India. Btw, greater India includes more nations than just India.
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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You act like that's the norm in India. It's not and restricted to small rural areas. While studying economics at Princeton, I had the opportunity to do research an India (not my cup of tea, btw). You have quite a bit to learn about the nation if you feel that the caste system is prominent in modern greater India. Btw, greater India includes more nations than just India.
The caste system is quite prominent in India. I spent time there myself and they have many "racial" problems within their country.
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Old 03-14-2014, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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Ever heard of math, science, and arts? We've borrowed these discoveries from Greater India and other Asian nations way before colonization and to this day. The very computer you're reading this on is based on mathematics discovered in Greater India.
It's because they existed before other civilizations.

That's about as relevant as saying we owe Africa for our lives because that's where it began.

You cannot claim the people today are benefiting from India (or greater India). There was just as many advancements in Mathematics, Art and Literature in other parts of the world.
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Old 03-16-2014, 01:44 AM
 
Location: Guangzhou, China
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You act like that's the norm in India. It's not and restricted to small rural areas. While studying economics at Princeton, I had the opportunity to do research an India (not my cup of tea, btw). You have quite a bit to learn about the nation if you feel that the caste system is prominent in modern greater India. Btw, greater India includes more nations than just India.
My ex wife's mom is Northern Indian, and her dad is Pakistani. I know more about the Indian subcontinent than you think I do. I haven't been there, nor do I purport to, but I'm hardly viewing it from a totally isolated and myopic vantage point. You, however, are obviously viewing it from an extremely sympathetic, somewhat boostering viewpoint.

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Ever heard of math, science, and arts?
No, I haven't. What are these things?

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We've borrowed these discoveries from Greater India and other Asian nations way before colonization and to this day. The very computer you're reading this on is based on mathematics discovered in Greater India.
Art was an Indian "discovery?" Do you have any idea how absurd what you just said is? Art has existed in all cultures, current and past, since practically the beginning of time... if you want to get into a lengthy discussion on the concurrent and separate developments of different art styles across the globe we most certainly can, but when it comes to many of the styles which influenced Western art, a more accurate place to point to would be Greece. Western art concepts of realism and aesthetic are vastly different from those of the rest of the world, and theirs' to Europe's.

As far as math, many contributions to mathematics certainly originated in India, but they also originated (again, separately) in long-since fallen empires such as the Babylonians and Egyptians, as well as the Greek, and also in China. The Scientific Revolution which laid the groundwork for modern science started in Europe and was based primarily off of Greek, Babylonian, and Egyptian theories that were further extrapolated and expounded upon during the medieval period; again, Indian mathematics made huge contributions to modern science and I don't know where precisely it is that you're getting that I don't appreciate this.

None of this has anything to do with past and present human rights problems in India, any more than NASA putting a man on the moon has to do with drones firing missiles at fourteen year old shepherds in Pakistan, or Euclid's contributions to mathematics have to do with the Greek government mismanaging its economy and disenfranchising its people. Do you feel as though the rest of the world owes India a debt for the fact that they adopted elements of its historical and mathematical thought? If that's the case, then it's reciprocated in that India benefits plenty from discoveries and innovations from all over the rest of the world.
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