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View Poll Results: Which feels bigger to you?
Tokyo 116 73.42%
New York 42 26.58%
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Old 03-18-2014, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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NYC feels a lot smaller geographically so it feels more overwhelming to me because it feels like the city is right on top of me. Tokyo is more impressive to me. It just goes on and on forever but also feels much safer.
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:39 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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NYC feels a lot smaller geographically so it feels more overwhelming to me because it feels like the city is right on top of me. Tokyo is more impressive to me. It just goes on and on forever but also feels much safer.
How is NYC smaller geographically? The ny metro is huge.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:23 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Part of the difference is that once you leave the city proper, the landscape surrounding New York gets very deciduous very quickly. Westchester County is obviously not pure bucolic countryside, but it feels very different. Thus New York feels big but not sprawling.
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Old 03-19-2014, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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How is NYC smaller geographically? The ny metro is huge.
I said it feels smaller. All the waterways make NYC more contained where Tokyo is practically 1/4 of Japan. But I'm not saying NYC isn't huge. Just smaller than Tokyo.
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Old 03-20-2014, 12:34 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Nice potshot at LA disguised as an analogy. Too bad it fails. The gap in density between LA's core and Hong Kong's is much wider than NYC/Tokyo.

The Akihabara District:


Akihabara, Tokyo's Electric and Anime District [iPhone 4S/HD] - YouTube

Shinjuku Station, the busiest in the world by far:


Tokyo Rush Hour, Shinjuku Station [iPhone 4S/HD] - YouTube

Most of Manhattan looks sleepy next to this, frankly.


LA is to SF what Tokyo is to NYC. SF has the nicer core, but only a fool would think the city feels bigger than Los Angeles.
So what you're saying is SF is just as spread out and minimalist as LA?
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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So what you're saying is SF is just as spread out and minimalist as LA?
Nope, but speaking of "spread out".


Tokyo: 3300 sq miles, 11400 ppsm
New York: 4495 sq miles, 4600 ppsm
Los Angeles: 2432 sq miles 6300 ppsm
San Francisco: 1080 sq miles, 5600 ppsm

Looks like the Tri-State area wins that honor--it's nearly twice as large as LA's footprint!

Notice how Tokyo is 2.5x as dense as NY. If the two regions were of similar population, it would be a huge deal. The fact that Tokyo has over 15 million more people makes it an unfathomable huge deal. Tokyo is the ultimate monster city. Only Seoul gives it a run for its money in the developed world.
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Old 03-20-2014, 06:38 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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^ It's because of the low density suburban nature of much if long island, North Jersey, Staten etc. The five boroughs compare well with tokyo in density and vibrancy. Manhattan compares well with tokyo in density and vibrancy.
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Old 03-20-2014, 11:25 PM
 
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. Manhattan compares well with tokyo in density and vibrancy.
Manhattan and the core parts of NYC actually kill Tokyo in density and vibrancy.

But Tokyo, overall, has "flat" medium density, so is much denser and more vibrant than the suburban parts of New York.

Tokyo is more like a much denser, much more transit-oriented version of LA, than a New York, which goes from extreme density to basically forest within the metro area.
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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Surprised at how small Manhattan is? New York is more than just Manhattan, it's 5 boroughs and a vast, sprawling metro area. Manhattan basically is like just the DOWNTOWN of New York (well at least the bottom half), notwithstanding the 'Downtown' Financial district. There are solid commercial high-rise all the way to 115th street. Manhattan is 10 miles long, how many world cities have a CBD 6 miles long? No, if anything Manhattan's size surprises people. Walking Manhattan end to end will take a solid 3 hours at a leisurely pace.
Walking Manhattan north to south get 4h25 (google map).
https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/40.87...143528!1m0!3e2
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Old 03-21-2014, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Walking Manhattan north to south get 4h25 (google map).
https://www.google.fr/maps/dir/40.87...143528!1m0!3e2
For 65+ yo people.
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