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Old 03-29-2014, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Kennedy Heights, Ohio. USA
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China has less than three hundred nukes, and with lower range and yeald,
Britain and France both have more and bigger nuclear weapons and with longer range than china.
China also has no 'blue water navy', this means they have very little power projection and can not engage in long distance warfare like USA, UK and France. Chinas military equipment is also much less advanced than America, Britain, France and Israel. China has no ability to wage war agains USA, UK or Russia, they don't even make their own aircraft carriers and nuclear submarines, tanks, jets etc are years behind
The thing is China has the manufacturing industrial capacity to ramp up military production if they so choose to. Before the U.S. entered WWII the U.S. in numerical terms was very lacking in military hardware compared to Germany and Japan. During WWII the Americans and the Russians had less advanced military equipment compared to Germany (Tanks, Jets, V2 Rocket ,88mm artillery piece, MG 38 machine gun,world's first assault rifle) but history proved overwhelming quantity trumps quality.
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Old 03-30-2014, 02:50 AM
 
Location: Satellite Of Love
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Actually they signed the agreement below, and Russia occupied the entire Crimea before the referendum was held. If Obama didn't say a single word about the crisis I am pretty sure more people will slam him.

The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances is a political agreement signed in Budapest, Hungary on 5 December 1994, providing security assurances by its signatories relating to Ukraine's accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. The Memorandum was originally signed by three nuclear powers, the Russian Federation, the United States of America, and the United Kingdom. China and France gave somewhat weaker individual assurances in separate documents.
The memorandum included security assurances against threats or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine as well as those of Belarus and Kazakhstan. As a result Ukraine gave up the world's third largest nuclear weapons stockpile between 1994 and 1996.
Following the 2014 Crimean crisis, the U.S., Canada and the U.K. all separately stated that Russian involvement is in breach of its obligations to Ukraine under the Budapest Memorandum, and in clear violation of Ukrainian sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Are you honestly so naive as to think that Obama began meddling in the Ukraine after the annexation of the Crimea?
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Are you honestly so naive as to think that Obama began meddling in the Ukraine after the annexation of the Crimea?
I didn't see Obama or any other American on the Maidan.
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:38 AM
 
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I didn't see Obama or any other American on the Maidan.
The U.S. funded the uprisings that overthrew a democratically elected government in the Ukraine and appointed a stooge government of fascists and thugs.
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:43 AM
 
Location: Finland
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The U.S. funded the uprisings that overthrew a democratically elected government in the Ukraine and appointed a stooge government of fascists and thugs.
Funded how? Giving cold war helmets and plywood to make homemade shields? Maybe send a 100 baseball bats? Don't kid yourself. The uprising was a popular movement and their equipment was raggedy-ass ad-hoc ones.

Yup, those pieces of bread certainly came from the US:
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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Funded how? Giving cold war helmets and plywood to make homemade shields? Maybe send a 100 baseball bats? Don't kid yourself. The uprising was a popular movement and their equipment was raggedy-ass ad-hoc ones.

Yup, those pieces of bread certainly came from the US:
Is this a parody comment?
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:53 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Is this a parody comment?
No. And you are spitting on the graves of those over 100 people who died if you claim that the US funded the uprising. The revolution was created, funded and executed by Ukrainian people.
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Old 03-30-2014, 05:56 AM
 
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The US never was a sole world superpower(Russia, EU, China) and is rapidly losing its superpower status to China and India. It is in decay in just about every aspect: income, education, science, information technology, business, industrial production, etc to mostly Asia. This has been going on for decades already.

There are predictions by economists that the standard of living in China will have overtaken the US by 2025, although frankly that seems a little early to me.
India where most people still live in the stone age because of their extremely poor standard of living, will NEVER surpass the U.S.

By American standards, over 95 percent of people in India would be considered poor. India is the epitome of a banana republic with extremely inferior infrastructure.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:05 AM
 
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No. And you are spitting on the graves of those over 100 people who died if you claim that the US funded the uprising. The revolution was created, funded and executed by Ukrainian people.
So not only do you refuse to look beyond superficialities when Washington's fingerprints are all over this crisis from its inception, but to think that the US government would be so blatant as to arm the uprising with up to date weaponry is simply startling.

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Old 03-30-2014, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Westminster, London
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No. And you are spitting on the graves of those over 100 people who died if you claim that the US funded the uprising. The revolution was created, funded and executed by Ukrainian people.
Washington’s Response to Leaked Victoria Nuland Call Confirms US-EU Regime-Change Plot in Ukraine | Global Research

And the leaked phone call in question:

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