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Old 03-17-2014, 08:11 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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The Church is pretty clear reincarnation is a heretical belief.
It's not a heretical belief at all, since there is no dogma in the Catholic doctrine stating clearly that there is no reincarnation. This belief appears to be somewhat out of the scope of the central matters in the Catholicism, but, as I said, the huge majority of the catholic scholars and priests deny this belief when talking about it.
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:31 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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It's not a heretical belief at all, since there is no dogma in the Catholic doctrine stating clearly that there is no reincarnation. This belief appears to be somewhat out of the scope of the central matters in the Catholicism, but, as I said, the huge majority of the catholic scholars and priests deny this belief when talking about it.
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It was never a mainstream belief of the Church and was often condemned. Mainstream Christianity, Catholic or otherwise, has never accepted Reincarnation. It totally doesn't fit into the Christian belief concerning what happens after death. Some Jews and gnostic other Christians might've been more open to it though.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:26 AM
 
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Church doctrine describes resurrection by Christ as a one off event based on scripture.
Reincarnation in pagan beliefs is generally about a never ending cycle of death and rebirth.
It would be a bit strange to hold both beliefs at the same time.
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Old 03-18-2014, 02:17 PM
 
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Most lower-class Catholics in Latin America have no idea the Catholic Church forbids intercourse for non-reproductive purposes, and don't believe you if you tell them.

Ruth, you should read the book "Eunuchs for the Kingdom of Heaven". It was written by a female, Catholic, university professor in Germany. Details here: Amazon.com: Online Shopping for Electronics, Apparel, Computers, Books, DVDs & more
It explains that in medieval times, the Church forbade sexual intercourse during approximately 1/3 of all the days in the year (saintly feast days, all Sundays, and also for periods of several weeks around Easter and Christmas seasons). The church told people that if their babies were deformed or retarded, it must be because they had been conceived during these on forbidden days. This policy is well-documented.

Catholics also believe that Mary was always a virgin, meaning that she and Joseph never consummated their marriage I frankly find that incredible. Sounds like they should have had professional counseling.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:23 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brasil
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It was never a mainstream belief of the Church and was often condemned. Mainstream Christianity, Catholic or otherwise, has never accepted Reincarnation. It totally doesn't fit into the Christian belief concerning what happens after death. Some Jews and gnostic other Christians might've been more open to it though.[/quote]

In the early days of Christianity reincarnation was a widely accepted concept, mainly because reincarnation had been part of the belief of many ramifications of Judaism, and the jew people was the first to develop Christianity. When the Romans embraced it, the belief in reincarnation was deleted of the christian doctrine, but there are some remains left that haven't been erased from the Bible, as in the episode when Jesus' disciples asks him if Elijah shouldn't reincarnate before Jesus comes, to accomplish the ancient prophecy, and Jesus answers them that Elijah had already reincarnated as John the Baptist. The word used is not "reincarnation', but it is impossible to assume that Jesus was speaking of any other thing than reincarnation in this passage of Mathew's book.
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Old 03-30-2014, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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It was never a mainstream belief of the Church and was often condemned. Mainstream Christianity, Catholic or otherwise, has never accepted Reincarnation. It totally doesn't fit into the Christian belief concerning what happens after death. Some Jews and gnostic other Christians might've been more open to it though.
In the early days of Christianity reincarnation was a widely accepted concept, mainly because reincarnation had been part of the belief of many ramifications of Judaism, and the jew people was the first to develop Christianity. When the Romans embraced it, the belief in reincarnation was deleted of the christian doctrine, but there are some remains left that haven't been erased from the Bible, as in the episode when Jesus' disciples asks him if Elijah shouldn't reincarnate before Jesus comes, to accomplish the ancient prophecy, and Jesus answers them that Elijah had already reincarnated as John the Baptist. The word used is not "reincarnation', but it is impossible to assume that Jesus was speaking of any other thing than reincarnation in this passage of Mathew's book.[/quote]

Yes it was a belief among some Jews at the time, and perhaps some early Christians, but I'm saying is it hasn't been accepted by any mainstream denomination of Christianity.
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Old 03-31-2014, 06:01 PM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brasil
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Yes it was a belief among some Jews at the time, and perhaps some early Christians, but I'm saying is it hasn't been accepted by any mainstream denomination of Christianity.
Well, Spiritism is a well established Christian religion, at least in Brazil, and reincarnation is its essence.
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Old 03-31-2014, 08:14 PM
 
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There's a syncretic belief in Asia that unifies purgatory and reincarnation, nirvana and heaven. Thus, the world with its trials and suffering is in fact purgatory and punishments are rendered by continuous rebirth. Once one redeems one's self, then one can go to heaven (or nirvana). This of course is more acceptable to Catholics because purgatory is official church doctrine but not acceptable to other Christian denominations that do not believe in purgatory.
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