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Old 03-16-2014, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Sure and i'm not knocking all the cities (and trust me Toronto - my city is no stranger to development lol - it has more construction than any city in the Western world), but I am questioning the overall integrity of this particular list..

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Old 03-16-2014, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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I think the process of Russian oligarchs buying central London real estate should be considered commercial - because they don't live there - they just buy property and leave it vacant. They are bought as investments and not as homes - Kensingon and Chelsea will end up as ghost towns if this process continues indefinitely. Sad, but true.
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Old 03-16-2014, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Sure and i'm not knocking all the cities (and trust me Toronto - my city is no stranger to development lol - it has more construction than any city in the Western world), but I am questioning the overall integrity of this particular list..
I can only really vouch for London in terms of providing real evidence for growth, I am certainly not an expert on every city. What I do know is that London is booming at the moment. Although most of the development is not in the traditional tourist heartlands and London has more protected sight lines than most cities.

BBC - Learning Zone Class Clips - The changing face of London: urban planning for the future - Geography Video

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Old 03-16-2014, 10:59 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Somebody needs to put down the "crack pipe"! A suburban crap whole that doesn't even have a defined "downtown"?
Look at the criteria before you comment.
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Old 03-16-2014, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I can only really vouch for London in terms of providing real evidence for growth, I am certainly not an expert on every city. What I do know is that London is booming at the moment. Although most of the development is not in the traditional tourist heartlands and London has more protected sight lines than most cities.

BBC - Learning Zone Class Clips - The changing face of London: urban planning for the future - Geography Video

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I don't know why you keep trying to convince me that London should be on the list (London isn't one of the cities that I would put into contention being on it)... I'm just saying imo opinion and based on what seems to be flawed criteria that my posts have eluded too, I think this list as a whole is pretty bogus!
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:18 PM
 
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I don't know why you keep trying to convince me that London should be on the list (London isn't one of the cities that I would put into contention being on it)... I'm just saying imo opinion and based on what seems to be flawed criteria that my posts have eluded too, I think this list as a whole is pretty bogus!
But, then again, as someone who has spent quite a bit of time in London, you'd be wrong. So, take it from someone else, it is one of the most dynamic cities in the world, and the feeling is palpable when you're there. Maybe you should visit London before forming an opinion. In fact, it's much more dynamic than San Francisco, whose location at the top of this list is baffling to a lot of posters including me. Silicon Valley is indeed the source of huge amounts of innovation, but it's a good 40 miles south of San Francisco. And, in fact, it's a lot closer to San Jose ... say no more.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:54 PM
 
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It is a good list because it is specific and also very objective so hard to debate.. incidentally, I would be looking at that list to research real estate and possibly commercial development because it is based on actual activity.
That Atticman list on skyscrapers is horrible. There is no such thing as a global skyscraper list. He just took some website and posted the numbers.
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Old 03-16-2014, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Great Britain
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I don't know why you keep trying to convince me that London should be on the list (London isn't one of the cities that I would put into contention being on it)... I'm just saying imo opinion and based on what seems to be flawed criteria that my posts have eluded too, I think this list as a whole is pretty bogus!
I am not trying to convince you of anything.

You mentioned a list based on skyscrapers on another thread and wanted to research real estate and commercial development, so I posted some of the many developments occurring in relation to London, if others want to do the same in relation to their cities or countries then we can perhaps build up a more realistic idea as to what is actually occurring in relation to each city and why each city deserved to be on such lists in the first place.

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It is a good list because it is specific and also very objective so hard to debate.. incidentally, I would be looking at that list to research real estate and possibly commercial development because it is based on actual activity.

The top 25 cities in the world for new skyscrapers under construction.
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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That Atticman list on skyscrapers is horrible. There is no such thing as a global skyscraper list. He just took some website and posted the numbers.
Possible but given all the construction in cities like Manila, Bangkok, Toronto, Istanbul, Dubai etc I think it is not at all beyond the realm of belief.. Certainly i'd put more money on that list than the mess of a list in this thread. The only thing I didn't realize is that the date of the Original post in Atticmans list is from 2011 so things might have changed a bit in 3 years.

In the top 5 cities in Atticman's list with construction of >100m - there is clearly a lot of recent, current and proposed activity!

Manila
List of tallest buildings in Metro Manila - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bangkok
List of tallest buildings in Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Toronto
List of tallest buildings in Toronto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Istanbul
List of tallest buildings in Istanbul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Dubai
List of tallest buildings in Dubai - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 03-16-2014, 08:27 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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I am not trying to convince you of anything.

You mentioned a list based on skyscrapers on another thread and wanted to research real estate and commercial development, so I posted some of the many developments occurring in relation to London, if others want to do the same in relation to their cities or countries then we can perhaps build up a more realistic idea as to what is actually occurring in relation to each city and why each city deserved to be on such lists in the first place.
As I said - I never questioned London's place on the list.. I do question some of the other cities and the order of it and the overall list.. The question here to me is the list itself not if London deserves a place..........

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