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Old 03-19-2014, 10:57 PM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Kev I'm surprised to hear British people doing that in Portugal. I wonder if its a lot of retirees.

American retirees in Mexico and the Bahamas certainly cling together. Many live in their own gated communities that are predominantly American.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:01 PM
 
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Not really. It's only nostalgia and revisionist history that makes people think other immigrant groups were any better at assimilating. Here's a quote from Ben Franklin on German immigrants.

"Why should Pennsylvania, founded by the English, become a Colony of Aliens, who will shortly be so numerous as to Germanize us instead of our Anglifying them, and will never adopt our language or customs, any more than they can acquire our complexion."

The only difference between more assimilated groups and less assimilated groups, is that the less assimilated groups saw continued immigration from their home country to America. Thus, as one generation assimilated into American culture, a new wave of immigrants took their place, creating the perception that they weren't assimilating.
Yep. There are American expat enclaves in Mexico (Chapala, San Miguel de Allende, Cabo San Lucas) where Americans speak mostly English and cling to American culture. All immigrant groups in various countries tend to do it.
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Old 03-19-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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I am Chinese and Taiwanese American by ethnicity and am very assimilated. While I've been influenced in superficial ways by the Chinese culture of my parents, overall I identify simply with mainstream American culture and Southern culture. I did not grow up around many other Asians. Most of my life I've also lived in places that are almost completely white and black with some Hispanics but few Asians. I know Chinese Americans from areas with larger Asian populations, especially California and New York, seem to stick together and self segregate but this is less true for Chinese people from other states.

I wouldn't say that Chinese and Indian immigrants in the US cling together more than Mexicans or blacks. Many blacks self segregate and keep their own culture despite being here for hundreds of years. First generation Chinese and Mexican often cling together for language purposes too.

I honestly think the immigrant group that MOST clings to their culture is the Arabs and Muslims. This is true in the US and even more true in Europe, sometimes with very disturbing results like "Londonistan" and the fact that over a third of British Muslims supported the London subway bombings. The Islamic religion and culture is VERY insular. Many British Muslims and American Muslims do not identify with the country at all, while many Chinese Americans who culturally seem unassimilated still cheer for the US over China in the Olympics, same with many Mexican Americans. Many Muslim girls in the US are still forced to wear headscarves and have arranged marriages by their parents.
I have a lot of Muslim-American friends, some wear the scarf, some don't. I find them to be normal girls who have incorporated well into American society. They are like most other immigrant groups, and I find them to be very nice and peaceful people. Even though I am not Muslim, it doesn't matter. We have normal female to female conversations.

Its a shame what is happening with the rebel Muslims but how about giving people a chance as individuals and not judging them all based on the actions of a few?
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:16 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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By the way, I am a big proponent of people keeping elements of their traditional cultures even when they immigrate to a new country.

Thank goodness that the United States is a country which accepts and promotes this philosophy.

The world would be boring as hell if everyone had the same culture. Variety is spicy and the more the merrier.
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Old 03-31-2014, 10:41 AM
 
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By the way, I am a big proponent of people keeping elements of their traditional cultures even when they immigrate to a new country.

Thank goodness that the United States is a country which accepts and promotes this philosophy.

The world would be boring as hell if everyone had the same culture. Variety is spicy and the more the merrier.
By your logic most countries in the world are boring as hell, because in most countries everybody has the same culture.

Most countries in the world are not multicultural.
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Old 03-31-2014, 12:00 PM
 
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I deliberately have not read other posts on this thread. I think Indian and Chinese people are excellent migrants because they are very adaptive. They usually are very well educated and willing to adapt to the host country. They are an asset to any country they chose to call home.
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