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Old 03-19-2014, 12:05 AM
 
Location: East coast
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I am wondering because when people talk about the Western civilization vs. the "non-Western" ones, sometimes people lump the Middle-eastern with other civilizations or regions like China, India, the rest of Asia, sub-Saharan African, or even indigenous peoples like the aborigines of Australia, Polynesia, or the New World ones that in some ways are considered more different.

Would you say that the Middle East sort of belongs with the West as a progenitor of it of sorts, because it had links to the West in the deep, historical past such as the Greeks and Romans, and the Mediterranean civilizations being tied to that part of the world. Do things like the Judeo-Christian heritage being tied to the land the ancient Hebrews wandered, and the lands of Abraham and Isaac somehow makes Europe plus the Middle East seem to be a more coherent unit than splitting Europe from the rest of the Old World, including North Africa and West Asia with the rest of Africa or Asia?

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Old 03-19-2014, 05:49 AM
 
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The Middle-East is the Middle-East. It was the cross road between Europe, Africa and Southern Asia (India&co) during thousands of years. For example Indian scientific discoveries were spread first in the Middle-East, and then, from the Middle-East were spread to Europe. And about religion, you just have to look at a map to see how Islam is strong in Africa and non-Middle-East Asia.
So yes Europe had obviously more link with the Middle East than with any other region, but the opposite is false. The Malian Empire, the Somalian Kingdom, the Indian Kingdoms, and so on share a huge History with the Middle East while they barely knew Europe existed.
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Old 03-19-2014, 08:40 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I agree with the above post. The Middle East shares a strong affinity with north africa, south and central Asia.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:06 AM
 
Location: East of the Sun, West of the Moon
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The reason Westerners 'lump' the Middle East with others is because the very definition of 'The West' was made in counterpoint to the Middle East. It is the defining 'Orient' to the West's 'Occident'.
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Old 03-20-2014, 08:56 AM
 
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I agree with the above post. The Middle East shares a strong affinity with north africa, south and central Asia.
I agree with the exception of Israel which definitely has more of a "western" feel than its neighbors.
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Old 03-20-2014, 10:37 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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I don't like these concepts of "the West" and "the East", since in most of cases these concepts are blurred and many countries don't fit in any category. For example: the Islamic World ranges from Morocco to Indonesia. Nobody call them "western", but they are also not "eastern". And about Russia, is it western or eastern? And we have also the case of Japan and South Korea, which traditionally belong to "the East", but in terms of economy and social structure they are much closer to Europe than to most of their neighbours.
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Old 07-25-2014, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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It is its own region. The Middle East and North Africa are more similar in culture to Central Asia. I think it is a bit of a stretch to compare that culture to South Asia-it is very different. But the Middle East has more in common with places like Pakistan or India (South Asia) than with Italy or England (Europe).
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Old 07-25-2014, 11:28 PM
 
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Um nope. It's been east vs. west for a long time now, buddy.
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