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Old 04-01-2014, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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It doesn't annoy me more than the feeble-mindedness of it amuses me. Australian media ignores anything that doesn't feature an Aussie. Do you enjoy wallowing in provincialism?
The Commercial Media in Australia is horrible, end of story, SBS is ok in my opinion.

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Old 04-01-2014, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Scotland
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Having a false notion about a country doesn't equate to being anti for goodness sake. Ignorance maybe, not hate or dislike.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Colorado
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Having a false notion about a country doesn't equate to being anti for goodness sake. Ignorance maybe, not hate or dislike.
If man told a Jew that that they are greedy money grubbers, would you not assume that the person dislikes Jews?
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:37 AM
 
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It seems when I talk to Americans travelling abroad many try to downplay America, at least the nation (if not the place), and all seem pretty critical of the government (especially during the Bush years). Maybe it's the people I've met, but it seems many feel sort of embarrassed about being American at times, in contrast to the stereotype of them all being chest-beating zealous patriots. Maybe it's because of the general atmosphere of anti-Americanism one experiences in say Europe?
I'm an American living in Europe. I read this again and again on C-D forums regularly, usually by Americans, about something like what is here called "the general atmosphere of anti-Americanism one experiences in say Europe."

In my experience it's complete bullsh*t. I think this "general atmosphere" is a figment in the imagination of a few American jingoists. And now it seems to have found a convert. I would have to venture that it is the people you have met.

I've not seen it in action in fifteen years of living and traveling around Europe. And I certainly have not come across any Americans "embarrassed about being Americans." In the Lisbon hotel where I stay while visiting Americans in the large morning breakfast room are usually shouting greetings and having conversations with other American tourists way across the room with not the slightest evident embarrassment about who they are.

As for Bush II...I think many non-Americans think that the Bush invasion of Iraq was one of the worst international screw-ups since WW II, but then so do many Americans. I've not met any Europeans yet who make the absolute equation that GW Bush=All Americans.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:40 AM
 
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I've seen groups of American tourists in Ireland and they can take over a place with numbers, but we're not any louder than any other Anglophones. That's your negative stereotyping coming into play.
My experience in Lisbon is that Americans and Chinese are rudely LOUD when they get in groups larger than four. And I do not find the English approach their decibel level.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Yeah actually I've met quite a few from the Bay Area. It seems that type of person is more likely to travel abroad to places like rural Vietnam than your average hick from Tennessee.
You might be surprised about how many educated and well travelled hicks there are.
What is the difference between rural Vietnam and rural Tennessee?
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:53 AM
 
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Yeah others have agreed with me that the Olympics or news is just TOO Aussie focused. I understand there will be a local bent, but really, does almost EVERY event (or the vast majority) on the olympics have to include Australia in it? It's Australia this, Australia that, green and gold.etc. I mean I cheer on our athletes as much as anyone, but it's a bit too much..of course when flight MH370 went missing many of the headlines were like '7 Australians missing...'
I do not know what it is with a certain age group - "... like". What happened to Denglisch???

As long as you watch Aussie TV you get Aussie news! German news brought not much but the missing German. US news focuses on Americans. You do not like it - change channels.
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Old 04-01-2014, 08:59 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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It seems when I talk to Americans travelling abroad many try to downplay America, at least the nation (if not the place), and all seem pretty critical of the government (especially during the Bush years). Maybe it's the people I've met, but it seems many feel sort of embarrassed about being American at times, in contrast to the stereotype of them all being chest-beating zealous patriots. Maybe it's because of the general atmosphere of anti-Americanism one experiences in say Europe?
The thing is, if a person goes abroad, they should not display patriotism no matter where they are from but admire the host country and culture. Else people might wonder why on earth you have not stayed at home if you find it so great there...
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:46 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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It seems when I talk to Americans travelling abroad many try to downplay America, at least the nation (if not the place), and all seem pretty critical of the government (especially during the Bush years). Maybe it's the people I've met, but it seems many feel sort of embarrassed about being American at times, in contrast to the stereotype of them all being chest-beating zealous patriots. Maybe it's because of the general atmosphere of anti-Americanism one experiences in say Europe?
No, I can't say that I've seen much of that.

Rather, an American acting patriotic abroad is much like a non-American acting patriotic in the United States.

The general reaction would be "That's cool. Now let's get on with our lives, shall we?"
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Old 04-01-2014, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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I'm not ashamed to be an American, but I don't feel the need to advertise it, either. The stereotype that Australians have about Americans is particularly galling given the effusive patriotism of the average Aussie.
Bah australians are no more patriotic than any other nationality , I would say exactly the same thing about England and South Korea after having lived for extended periods of time in both countries. I am sure if I ever went to the USA I'd find a heap of patriotic people, and a heap of pessimistic ones as well, just like we have in Australia.

Oh and to postman it's pretty much taboo to be patriotic when traveling abroad regardless of your nationality.
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