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Old 02-27-2015, 12:11 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Human beings love to have pride in something (the religion they belong to, the nation of their choosing, the sports team of their choosing, the music of their choosing, etc . . .). It is as natural as breathing air and it comes as easy. To do the opposite is also the same principle in practice as they pride themselves in being the different ones/rebels. All of it should be taken with a great degree of "salt" as it is purely subjective.
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Old 02-27-2015, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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We are dead last.
As this thread shows, people have very different ideas of what Pride means, even in the uniform language of this forum. When you start translating the question into different languages, it even redoubles the likelihood that a respondent will answer using very different interpretations of what it even means. Because of language, I'm always skeptical about any global survey that asks people about emotionally-loaded topics.
"Words such as love, passion, duty, are so continually used they grow to have no meaning — except as coins or weapons" (---Michael Ondaatje)

Timing is also critical. There are days when every American is proud, and other days when everyone is ashamed of their country. On what day were these surveys conducted, and what controversial event dominated the news in that country on that day?

What I do find interesting is the relative number of people who said Not Sure. Very high for Germany, Japan and China. Maybe that is a sign that people are well educated and knowledgeable about logical thinking and understand the complexities of the concept. And that their countries have had very ethically-mixed histories.

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Old 02-27-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Germany
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Im proud of my country, because we are not proud of our country.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:29 AM
 
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Old topic, I feel like it's like this:

Extreme national pride, can hardly handle any criticism regarding their own countries from foreigners and locals alike:
South Korea, China, USA, Singapore

Also really proud but a tad less extreme:
UK, France, Australia

Claim to be humble but secretly think that they are better than everyone else:
Germany, Austria

Reasonable level of national pride:
Japan, Canada

Complain and complain, yet still act like employees from the national bureau of tourism:
Italy, Spain

Low level of national pride, borderline self-loathing:
Belgium, the Netherlands, Taiwan

Just some observations.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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National pride makes sense because "the world" is much too big and complex a place for people to have pride in.

Most humans are not really capable of identifying with foreign cultures, whether they like to pretend to or not. That is why people usually end up having bastardized understandings of countries other than their own.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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I think we should take pride in how we were the best/first sperm out of thousands of other sperms. We should all have pride in that...
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Kansas/China
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Old topic, I feel like it's like this:

Extreme national pride, can hardly handle any criticism regarding their own countries from foreigners and locals alike:
South Korea, China, USA, Singapore

Also really proud but a tad less extreme:
UK, France, Australia

Claim to be humble but secretly think that they are better than everyone else:
Germany, Austria

Reasonable level of national pride:
Japan, Canada

Complain and complain, yet still act like employees from the national bureau of tourism:
Italy, Spain

Low level of national pride, borderline self-loathing:
Belgium, the Netherlands, Taiwan

Just some observations.
The only ones I disagree with are Japan and Canada. They both have a lot of national pride. I'd put them up there on the second tier. Canadian national pride has really taken off in the last decade. And they have a lot to be proud of.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:58 PM
 
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The only ones I disagree with are Japan and Canada. They both have a lot of national pride. I'd put them up there on the second tier. Canadian national pride has really taken off in the last decade. And they have a lot to be proud of.
Well the showcase seems pretty tame.

I think it's more about the attitude than if there's anything to be proud of. Dutch people have a lot to be proud of as well but they only focus on talking about how boring it is etc.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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The Dutch don't have enough national pride, last week elections showed that.
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I love multi-culturalism without Islam.
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