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Old 03-20-2017, 09:15 PM
 
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The Dutch don't have enough national pride, last week elections showed that.
Rejecting a far right fanatic is yet another thing for the Dutch to be proud of.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Scotland
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The Dutch don't have enough national pride, last week elections showed that.
The far right has done great by getting people to vote against their own interests by preying on their prejudices. Looks like you are one of the gullible too.
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:40 PM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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The far right has done great by getting people to vote against their own interests by preying on their prejudices. Looks like you are one of the gullible too.
Scotland has a muslim % of 1.4 and most of them are educated, you have no clue what's going on in the Netherlands where there are almost 9% muslims (incl. refugees) many of them enjoying welfare and doing all kind of illegal activities (More than half of the prisoners in the Netherlands are muslim) and the worst part is that 70% of all those muslims say that the law of the koran is more important than the law of the country, that IS soldiers are heroes and that the country of their parents/grandparents (Morocco, Turkey etc.) is much better than the Netherlands.

Why the hell do they still stay in this country? Right, FREE MONEY!
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Old 03-21-2017, 12:07 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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Rejecting a far right fanatic is yet another thing for the Dutch to be proud of.
Rejecting a guy that says what many people think but are too afraid to say is something to be ashamed of.
Most Dutch "tolerate" muslims out of fear not because they like them (they had their chance but they f'd it up in the last 2 decades, the first generation was fine but the others that followed, well i think you saw the Rotterdam Riots in the news, a sea of Turkish flags and most of those people were born and raised in this country), It's the beginning of the end on what the Netherlands was build on, Freedom of speech is dying.

Freedom/Multi-Culturalism and Islam are not compatible.

There are so many religions in the world but there is only 1 that fights them all...
You see them killing Sikhs and Hindus in South Asia, Buddhists in Southeast Asia and Christians, Jews, Atheists and Agnosts all over the world.
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Old 03-21-2017, 02:53 AM
 
Location: Vienna, Austria
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Rejecting a guy that says what many people think but are too afraid to say is something to be ashamed of.
Most Dutch "tolerate" muslims out of fear not because they like them (they had their chance but they f'd it up in the last 2 decades, the first generation was fine but the others that followed, well i think you saw the Rotterdam Riots in the news, a sea of Turkish flags and most of those people were born and raised in this country), It's the beginning of the end on what the Netherlands was build on, Freedom of speech is dying.

Freedom/Multi-Culturalism and Islam are not compatible.

There are so many religions in the world but there is only 1 that fights them all...
You see them killing Sikhs and Hindus in South Asia, Buddhists in Southeast Asia and Christians, Jews, Atheists and Agnosts all over the world.
There is a difference between saying that we should be cautious about Islamist terrorists and migrants and the bull**** Wilders and you are posting. Populists in Europe will remain a fringe phenomenon until they realise that. In the meantime, real politicians will figure out how to deal with those issues appropriately...

Besides your assessment of world religions is just wrong in terms of persecution of non-believers...
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Old 03-21-2017, 09:28 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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There is a difference between saying that we should be cautious about Islamist terrorists and migrants and the bull**** Wilders and you are posting. Populists in Europe will remain a fringe phenomenon until they realise that. In the meantime, real politicians will figure out how to deal with those issues appropriately...

Besides your assessment of world religions is just wrong in terms of persecution of non-believers...
Have you ever lived in a neighborhood or been to a school where more than half of the people were Moroccan/Turk? If not you don't have the right to call it bull****.

I wouldn't call leaving the door wide open "appropriately", its a invitation for terrorists.
Gutmensch like you are only making it worse by not seeing that Islam brings out the worst in people.
Have you ever read the koran (i refuse to pronounce it in their way), it says its your duty to kill non-muslims if they don't join the group.

A teacher was hacked to death on the streets of Dhaka and a student in Jakarta was put in jail for saying they were atheist on facebook just last year. Those are only 2 examples but you can find thousands of them.
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:14 AM
 
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Have you ever read the koran (i refuse to pronounce it in their way), it says its your duty to kill non-muslims if they don't join the group.
From Deuteronomy 13:
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If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the Lord your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. 11 Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
Honestly everyone should go Buddhist or Taoist or Shintoist if they are looking for religion lol. The most live-and-let-live religions ever.

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A teacher was hacked to death on the streets of Dhaka and a student in Jakarta was put in jail for saying they were atheist on facebook just last year. Those are only 2 examples but you can find thousands of them.
And? Tons of dissenters are put to jail or killed in tons of undemocratic dictatorships. Bangladesh and Indonesia are hardly special in this regard.
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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From Deuteronomy 13:
How many Jews followed those rules in the last 400 years?
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Old 03-21-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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How many Jews followed those rules in the last 400 years?
I don't know. How many muslims have killed people who don't practice Islam in the Netherlands?
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Old 03-21-2017, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Eindhoven, Netherlands
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I don't know. How many muslims have killed people who don't practice Islam in the Netherlands?
A couple hundred.
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