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Old 04-06-2014, 02:50 AM
 
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On of the paradoxes of Australian history is how a nation originally founded as a convict settlement, became so obsessed with the obligations of citizens to participate in the good governance of the nation.

Voting is not a “right”; there is an obligation under law to register to vote and participate in elections. The basic law of the land, the constitution, is thought to be far too important to be left to courts, politicians or appointed officials. It was approved by the people by referendum, and all changes to it no matter how insignificant or peripheral must also be voted on and approved by the people.

Other nations must have similar enigmas in their history and psyche.
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Old 04-06-2014, 07:55 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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While a dumping ground for convicts was one purpose for Australia, it was also intended as a place for free settlers to farm the land, produce resources to ship back to Britain and the colonies, and be developed as part of the glorious British Empire. So while convicts may have built a lot of the early buildings and many contributed to building up the economy, they weren't the ones running the show (excluding ex-convicts who attained positions of power and influence).

China's mix of authoritarianism yet strident free-market style economic liberalism, officially Communist yet one of the most capitalist nations on earth (at least that's how it seemed when I visited) as well as the world's factory is one of them. Traditionally anti-trade and derisive of merchants, China seems to be embracing capitalism and consumerism with as much gusto as America did in the 20th century.
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Old 04-06-2014, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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It's kinda paradox, that Vienna is the stronghold of our far-right party. A city where you are not considered truly Viennese when you don't have a Hungarian or Czech grandmother, where two-thirds of the population have a Polish/Czech/Hungarian/Croatian name and which used to be the capital of an empire where only 23% spoke German.

A prime example of how populism can turn people into mindless zombies...
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Old 04-06-2014, 02:17 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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The United States, which has always regarded itself as the world's leading beacon of liberty, was founded in large part by slave-owners.
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Old 04-06-2014, 11:01 PM
 
Location: Mid Atlantic USA
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The United States, which has always regarded itself as the world's leading beacon of liberty, was founded in large part by slave-owners.

And the liberty loving Libertarians of today admire and praise the Confederacy. Libertarians and Neo-Confederates make very strange bedfellows indeed.
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Old 04-07-2014, 12:32 AM
 
Location: El Sereno, Los Angeles, CA
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And the liberty loving Libertarians of today admire and praise the Confederacy. Libertarians and Neo-Confederates make very strange bedfellows indeed.
Well they call themselves Libertarians at least, I call bull**** on most of them.

And yes America, supposedly about freedom and democracy yet very much intent on invading and subjugating the nations around them, plenty of which were freer prior to American invasion.
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Old 04-07-2014, 04:05 AM
 
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Barely five posts in and this thread is already heading down the retard polemic and ignorance typical of the Politics and Other Controversies forum.
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Old 04-12-2014, 09:32 PM
 
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1. Capitalistic Communism is an apparent, and somewhat obvious phenomenon in Vietnam, and China.

2. There is a political mindset paradox, contradiction, and enigma situation in countries like Singapore where society over there feels very progressive, moderate, and conservative simultaneously.

3. A majority of East Asian, South Asian, and Southeast Asian countries Taiwan, South Korea, some of China, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, and India have a noticeable progressive, moderate, and conservative mysterious element simultaneously, and political mindset, and especially lifestyle is completely different over there compared to Europe, and North America.

4. There is technically a Constitutional Monarchy in Sweden, yet all Scandinavian countries feel very democratic without any forms of monarchy.

5. Buddhism is originally from India, and somehow there is only a minority amount of Buddhists there in modern times, and getting a dominant form of Hinduism, a noticeable paradoxical contradictory enigma.

6. There is an extreme environmental mixed enigma situation in China, and not nearly an ecological disaster some people expect. One of the lowest deforestation rates exists in China, a phenomenon nobody really expects, and one of the highest gained forests rates over there. There is improvement in nature preservation over there. A noticeable amount of areas in China air pollution is not so horrible, Yunnan Province is quite pristine, including areas of Western China, and some of Fujian province.

7. Some countries in Southeastern Europe is unfortunately majority Muslim with minimal Christian influence such as Bosnia, and Albania. Around 80% to 90% of Albania, and Kosovo’s population is actually Muslim, and 40%-60% in Bosnia. A not expected contradiction enigma in Continental Europe where everyone expects is majority Christian.
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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1. Capitalistic Communism is an apparent, and somewhat obvious phenomenon in Vietnam, and China.

2. There is a political mindset paradox, contradiction, and enigma situation in countries like Singapore where society over there feels very progressive, moderate, and conservative simultaneously.

3. A majority of East Asian, South Asian, and Southeast Asian countries Taiwan, South Korea, some of China, Thailand, Malaysia, Vietnam, and India have a noticeable progressive, moderate, and conservative mysterious element simultaneously, and political mindset, and especially lifestyle is completely different over there compared to Europe, and North America.

4. There is technically a Constitutional Monarchy in Sweden, yet all Scandinavian countries feel very democratic without any forms of monarchy.

5. Buddhism is originally from India, and somehow there is only a minority amount of Buddhists there in modern times, and getting a dominant form of Hinduism, a noticeable paradoxical contradictory enigma.

6. There is an extreme environmental mixed enigma situation in China, and not nearly an ecological disaster some people expect. One of the lowest deforestation rates exists in China, a phenomenon nobody really expects, and one of the highest gained forests rates over there. There is improvement in nature preservation over there. A noticeable amount of areas in China air pollution is not so horrible, Yunnan Province is quite pristine, including areas of Western China, and some of Fujian province.

7. Some countries in Southeastern Europe is unfortunately majority Muslim with minimal Christian influence such as Bosnia, and Albania. Around 80% to 90% of Albania, and Kosovo’s population is actually Muslim, and 40%-60% in Bosnia. A not expected contradiction enigma in Continental Europe where everyone expects is majority Christian.
Yeah Singapore is an odd one...I'd say it's both progressive, global, outward looking, yet also insular, conservative in some regards...I think there's a disconnect between the somewhat authoritarian government and the people, but the government influences the people.

I wouldn't say India is progressive...Taiwan strikes me as the most progressive and modern, yet also celebrating culture and tradition.

Same with a lot of European countries.

I suppose it's no different to Christianity coming from Judea/Israel.

Yes, much of China is quite sparsely populated too, but the populated east has pretty horrid pollution. Maybe it'll be reversed though, I hope.

You think that's bad? Yeah, I think there's still a lot of Christian cultural influence. Albania still has that Catholic substrate. It was due to the Ottoman Empire. Even Greece used to be pretty Muslim before the 'swap-over' with Turkey.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:24 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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All of the European countries that have adopted same-sex marriage are either majority Catholic or monarchies (or both -- e.g. Spain and Belgium).
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