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Old 04-26-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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hold on a minute now , while the republican movement in ireland is centuries old , australia wasnt founded yesterday either , around the time huge numbers of irish convicts were shipped to australia , all of ireland was firmly under british rule and the rebellion was in its infancy so i doubt a majority who ended up on the convict ships headed for down under were wolf tone style revolutionaries
"wolf tone" ????

A majority "revolutionaries", no probably not ,but here were certainly more than a few who the British seemed to have viewed as hostile to their interests.

How did the events of 1798 subsequently impact on Irish society? http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british...h_reb_01.shtml
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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very few empires were all bad ( objectively speaking )

the romans introduced many useful things to britain etc yet some say " what did they ever do for us "
If you ask a lot of people in Asia they'll often have both good and bad things to say about Empire. No, it wasn't ALL bad.
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:33 AM
 
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"wolf tone" ????

A majority "revolutionaries", no probably not ,but here were certainly more than a few who the British seemed to have viewed as hostile to their interests.

How did the events of 1798 subsequently impact on Irish society? BBC - History - British History in depth: The 1798 Irish Rebellion
theobold wolf tone is recognised as the father of irish republicanism , he was a protestant born into priveledge
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:35 AM
 
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If you ask a lot of people in Asia they'll often have both good and bad things to say about Empire. No, it wasn't ALL bad.
thats not to say the imperial power wasnt out to gouge the locals for all they were worth , sometimes you end up helping people purely by accident
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Old 04-26-2014, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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thats not to say the imperial power wasnt out to gouge the locals for all they were worth , sometimes you end up helping people purely by accident
That's true, most of their intentions were definitely not altruistic...
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:34 PM
 
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Well I wasn't aware how many lived in Spain, France.etc. British as in % born in the UK.
Some estimates vary. I've seen as high as around one million, and as low as less than 3/4 of a million. Apparently one million or so Brits live in Australia, but how many of those are 10 Poms?

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Old 04-26-2014, 02:43 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Oh come on many people visit one city in a country and judge the country by that experience, yes it is wrong but many do it. And why assume all middle aged housewives are bored.
Not saying it doesn't happen, it obviously does, That doesn't make calling someone out on it is wrong.

I also said " a middle aged housewife " not " all ".
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Old 04-27-2014, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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There are no British cities in Europe.

Nowhere has a British population of 200,000. I don't think you can get it into your head that British people mostly migrate to anglophone areas.
Gibraltar? A U.K. territory in Europe. Small though.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:13 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Its not 200,000
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:35 AM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Australia has a Union Jack on their flag, so maybe they feel more welcome there. . .
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