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Old 04-24-2014, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Miami Springs, Florida
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I don't really care either.
Then why are you here? You're more Irish than English anyway...
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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the country has a sober , reserved manner about it , im not saying its a copy of ballymena , influences are often subtle in appearance
This is spot-on. Most of Canada (except for Quebec and Newfounland) is like this and this characteristic - that some see as British-esque - really stands out when you compare Canada to the US.
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Old 04-24-2014, 08:41 PM
 
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English-speaking Canada was never a lock, stock and barrel transplant of the UK into another part of the world like Australia and NZ were (in the early days most English-speaking Canadians were people who first setlted in the U.S.), but certainly it was much more British than it is today in culture, mindset and feel.
Yet in many ways Australia's beginning were not typical of British society at all. It was founded after all as a prison colony, and a large proportion of those transported were rebellious southern Irish Catholics who spoke Irish Gaelic. It was a few decades before free migration commenced, and within a couple of decades a large proportion of immigrants were from outside the UK; continental Europe, Asia and (during the gold rush years) North America.
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:25 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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I'm not going to seriously address Mac15's claims, but it should go without saying you can get a bigger house for your buck in Oz, our houses are bigger, our economy is doing much better than the UK, less debt.etc. That's why fewer Aussies are going to the UK and poms are still flocking here. Maybe the gloomy weather up in N.Ireland is just making him cranky...
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Old 04-24-2014, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Yet in many ways Australia's beginning were not typical of British society at all. It was founded after all as a prison colony, and a large proportion of those transported were rebellious southern Irish Catholics who spoke Irish Gaelic. It was a few decades before free migration commenced, and within a couple of decades a large proportion of immigrants were from outside the UK; continental Europe, Asia and (during the gold rush years) North America.
Yes, it's true many convicts were Irish, but Australia's society, while it began as a prison/convict settlement (or rather settlements), was modelled on the British system from the beginning. There were many free settlers, many quite wealthy, and of course convicts who became free settlers, it's not like Australia was just convicts. Several settlements like Melbourne and Adelaide weren't even convict colonies at all.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:34 AM
 
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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canada and new zealand were both prime destinations for scots and ulster scots , their influence shaped the charechter of both countries to this day , both are quite presbyterian in charechter , unexciting but steady
Is it still true to this date? the emigration pattern of Scots to Canada/NZ in proportions to overall British emigrants.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:10 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Then why are you here? You're more Irish than English anyway...
And how do you know??
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:11 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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the country has a sober , reserved manner about it , im not saying its a copy of ballymena , influences are often subtle in appearance
No offence but you really know nothing about the Presbyterian lifestyle.

They aren't all sour or anything like that.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:12 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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British professionals have been leaving Britain in droves and emigrating to America/Canada for decades. They work in many industries over there. We're not just a nation of Electricians or Plumbers!!

No offence to any Electricians or Plumbers on the board. I just think it's insulting to insinuate that we don't have skilled people that would be wanted/needed in America.

I personally know many Britons that work in the game industry in America.

Don't be silly. 700,000+ Britons in America, and you think most of them are there because of marrying an American.

There are a similar number of Germans living over there. Do you think the same is true for them? Or, are they the pioneers that will take America forward in the 21st century.
I had to laugh when he said that. As if a modern rich nation like the UK wouldn't have a skilled workforce.
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Old 04-25-2014, 03:13 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Yet in many ways Australia's beginning were not typical of British society at all. It was founded after all as a prison colony, and a large proportion of those transported were rebellious southern Irish Catholics who spoke Irish Gaelic. It was a few decades before free migration commenced, and within a couple of decades a large proportion of immigrants were from outside the UK; continental Europe, Asia and (during the gold rush years) North America.
You do realise that Ireland is a mirrior image of UK?
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