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Old 04-29-2015, 06:21 AM
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Maybe they compensate for it by concentrating on acquiring stuff instead. Even the humble single Christian folks I visited in the US were driving .
It is true for some big gas-guzzling SUVs, big houses, lots of stuff is a status symbol to show the world "Hey I'm doing Okay". I'm not sure how sexual repression fits into that but I think that too many people are working too hard to pay for all that crap that everything else suffers including a satisfying sex life.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Macao
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Much of America is actually sexually repressed many people are brought up to associate casual sex with feelings of guilt.
I think that is associated with Catholicism - but I don't know.

Well, everyone I grew up with, casual sex was very commonplace, and it still is.

But, when I read about Mormons, I can see it's not. I was raised Catholic, and theoretically there is supposed to be Catholic guilt about premarital sex, but at least where I grew up, it was always the Catholic girls that seemed to get pregnant with the highest frequencies during my High School years.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:12 AM
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I think that is associated with Catholicism - but I don't know.

Well, everyone I grew up with, casual sex was very commonplace, and it still is.

But, when I read about Mormons, I can see it's not. I was raised Catholic, and theoretically there is supposed to be Catholic guilt about premarital sex, but at least where I grew up, it was always the Catholic girls that seemed to get pregnant with the highest frequencies during my High School years.
For sure, but also many people brought up in conservative Christian families as well, contrary to what many people believe there are conservative areas of California abstinence and guilt is stlll a Catholic thing. I remember attending Catholic mass some years ago the Priest announced that someone wanted to speak to the congregation a male parishoner got up to speak to the congregation about how ashamed he was that he had become addicted to watching porn and what a negative impact porn has had on his life. What a pitiful sight it was I felt a little sorry for the fool.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:19 AM
 
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Acquiring "stuff" instead of practising free sex is the new neo puritanism of the 21st century. How sad. The swinging sixties are definitively dead, and buried, -at least in the West (not even talking of the Muslim world or of the Chinese men who can't find girlfriends because they have been 'er' aborted...)
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:20 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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Finland has one of the most lively classical music scenes in Europe and a very healthy theater scene, and if the Postman would spend a night partying in Helsinki he would be as shocked as the German scientist in the 19th century who couldn't find a single "Mongol Finn".
What I know about Finland in the classical music scene is the Savonlinna Festival Opera and the music of Jan Sibelius. But is the classical music so prevalent in the finnish society? I'm asking this because the Netherlands remained for centuries as a 'land without music' and nowadays is has one of the most outstanding classical music scenes of the world.

(off-topic: I do write classical music and I'm dreaming about the day when I will be able to write an opera or oratorium based on the Kalevala).
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:23 AM
 
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For sure, but also many people brought up in conservative Christian families as well, contrary to what many people believe there are conservative areas of California abstinence and guilt is stlll a Catholic thing. I remember attending Catholic mass some years ago the Priest announced that someone wanted to speak to the congregation a male parishoner got up to speak to the congregation about how ashamed he was that he had become addicted to watching porn and what a negative impact porn has had on his life. What a pitiful sight it was I felt a little sorry for the fool.
Ah, yeah, you're right. Actually the U.S. is such a big place, it's so different in many different places.

I can imagine that element existing in very conservative parts of California; and I can definitely see it occuring in the Southern States where they have many Baptist churches and such.

Up where I grew up, I think we had a lot of Scandinavians, Germans, etc...Upper Midwest. Not so much guilt about it up there, that I remember.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:30 AM
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Ah, yeah, you're right. Actually the U.S. is such a big place, it's so different in many different places.

I can imagine that element existing in very conservative parts of California; and I can definitely see it occuring in the Southern States where they have many Baptist churches and such.

Up where I grew up, I think we had a lot of Scandinavians, Germans, etc...Upper Midwest. Not so much guilt about it up there, that I remember.
Where I grew up many of the Catholics were Irish, Italians, Portuguese, Hispanics, a few Dutch, but many just identified as American if you ask me I think that some of the Irish were the most conservative.
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