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When the US is better at something they're here like roaches. Anyway, I've always said it makes more sense to compare this way as the USA spans a continet anyway. But yeah, talk about the US vs Europe and Europe comes up short, suddenly it isn't far to compare this way
Why not just say European countries then? Or European Union countries? Or developed European countries? I think those could be good compromises.
the usa doesnt do multiculturalism ( i agree with them btw )
people who move to america are expected to prioritise america first and foremost , different attitude in northern europe , of course policy in this area in northern europe is completley dominated by comfortably middle class liberals
Probably more than one. The one thing people have to remember when discussing violent crime, is that different countries categorize what a violent crime is, so some places which are actually safer than others, can look bad in the numbers.
I think that's an important point. It is often very difficult to compare statistics from different countries. I know that Germany distinguishes between homicide and manslaughter. The homicide rate from Germany that is used for such international comparisons add homicide and manslaughter together. I guess that is done for the other countries, too. The homicide rate for Germany also includes the murder attempt. Is that also the case in other countries? When I understand the figures for Canada correctly, than the homicide rate for Canada is 1.9 and an additional murder attempt rate of 2.6.
In 2012 there were 630 homicides (incl. murder attempts) in Germany, thereby were 281 people killed. The 630 refers to the everywhere released homicide rate for Germany of 0.8 per 100,000 inhabitants. If only the 281 were considered the homicide rate would be at 0.35 per 100,000 inhabitants. Homicide rate and murder attempt halves from the mid 90's. That's seems to be normal in every developed country.
Outside of the U.S., there doesn't seem to be this kind of dramatic difference in crime rates as you go from high socioeconomic classes to lower ones within the same metro areas. It's like there are 2 Americas. Everybody - no matter what city they live in - knows what the "wrong side of town" is. Upper-middle class Americans are literally sheltered from crime in a way that is probably a rare experience for similar people in other developed countries.
Very good described. I know that the police authorities ascertain crime data for all the different Cities and "Kreise" (counties) in Germany. This data is also published. But almost no one is interested in these data. Because the differences in crime between the areas are very small, so the data is very uninteresting. The crime in poorer districts isn't higher than in affluent districts. I often read in this forum someone ask where in the xy region are the safe areas to life. Normally no one ask such questions in Germany. Of course people wan't to life in a nice and beautiful neighborhood, but they don't think about the crime level in certain areas.
It makes basically no sense to compare homicide rates between different cities, because cities are normally to small. For example there is 1 homicide in a city with 100,000 inhabitants, the homicide rate is 1.0. Next year there is no homicide, the rate is 0.0, and after next year there are 3 homicides, the homicide rate jumped to 3.0. The population is to small and therefore the homicide rate vary strongly. It makes not that much sense to compare homicide rates between areas with a small population.
Where are your data from? A murder rate of 0.04 in a city with a population of 272,068 (Plano, Texas)? 0.04 murder per 100,000 inhabitants? That means for this city 0.1088 killed person? You can kill 1 person or multiples thereof, but it isn't possible to kill 0.1088 persons :-))
EDIT EDIT: The figures are probably an average over a periode of several years? EDIT EDIT
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There are some very large cities with murder rates below Amsterdam's (4.4)
Portland (3.3)
El Paso (3.4)
San Diego (3.5)
Austin (3.7)
Seattle (3.7)
In my opinion only San Diego with a population of over 1 Mil can be called very large.
Last edited by florian73; 05-06-2014 at 12:23 PM..
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