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USA highly developed? the USA infrastructure is old, and it doesnt feel like a modern country in many ways. LAck of sidewalks in most areas, old train system/subway, big gap between rich and poor, traffic jam problems.
For me highly developed countries are Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Iceland, The Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Belgium. Spain has a much better public transport system than the US.
On topic I would say the UK and the US. The US for organized crime and the UK for random violence.
Being that murder is extremely rare in any developed and robbery is much more common, let's see where you're most likely to be a robbery victim.
Oh, how shocking! Spain is so safe.
Whine all you want, it's a fact that Spain is far safer than the US.
If murder were extremely rare in any developed country as you'd like to believe, that would mean the US is not one of 'em.
Off track? You mean we can't discuss guns in a thread about safety?
Sure but I know in the current events forum they shut down these 2nd amendment discussions because they get too heated, and then also it's not a "world" issue but a US politics issue.
Also that last post by the one dude just went into a tasteless personal attack, but maybe it's a private sexual flirting discussion who knows, I don't want to know.
But I don't care. I'm just here to say:
In Before the Lock!
It was pretty clear that he and I were exchanging jokes. .
It's too much information - there is private chat or special dedicated forums if you two want to discuss thick long logs. Knock yourselves out in wherever your particular interest lies.
I'm not downplaying it.
Yeah, a few bombs went off in my town and city, it wasn't rare to hear about yet another explosion in the news and Miguel Ãngel Blanco's execution was burnt into everyone's memory. They were horrible, bloodthirsty, merciless, hateful people who loved planting fear into everyone's heart. They caused a lot of grief to countless families.
And despite this, ETA's death count in the 51 years they were operative is lower than the US's numbers in a single year, so it isn't really crazy to say Spain was safer even back then.
(The number of victims is said to be around 860 total.)
I don't think anyone's claiming there's a single place on Earth that's 100% safe, but there are countries that are way safer than others, where the chances of being harmed are lower.
I hear what you are saying. The killings in the US are ridiculously high and I believe out of control. However, you also need to keep in perspective how large the US is. Its a huge country.
I don't think Spain felt unsafe, but the US doesnt feel unsafe either. Yes I know there are statstics, and the statstics say that some countries are safer than others, but due to personal experiences, I have come to the conclusion that things can happen to you anywhere. Heck, I'm in Mexico all the time and I've never had problems there, not even with cops.
Yes I did. Did you run the numbers? Did you do any investigation into where the homicides are happening and who is committing them?
The people doing the killing and being killed in the US are not part of the developed world. They opt to declare themselves victims of oppression and behave much like third world people, including the way they choose to look after their own neighborhoods. There are other poor neighborhoods in the US that look nothing like the places where the vast majority of the homicides are taking place. They have turned their neighborhoods into war zones on their own accord.
If you don't live in those areas, your odds of being murdered are about the same as in Europe, despite the gun nuts and all their guns. It's cultural problem, not a gun problem.
No one disagrees that there is cultural element to the problem, but do you really think the bloodshed would be the same if your gun laws weren't so lax?
Who cares if you don't live in that area? Do you as Americans not care about all of the country?
Also by only focusing on " the others " you forget about accidental shootings and suicides. The fact that in 2015
a toddler, under 3, has shot someone once a week on average, sometimes fatally, should be a concern.
Sure but I know in the current events forum they shut down these 2nd amendment discussions because they get too heated, and then also it's not a "world" issue but a US politics issue.
Also that last post by the one dude just went into a tasteless personal attack, but maybe it's a private sexual flirting discussion who knows, I don't want to know.
But I don't care. I'm just here to say:
In Before the Lock!
In a discussion about least safest first world countries, countering an argument that the US isn't that bad by comparing it to countries, that aren't first world, should be part of the discussion.
One should challenge the argument that " it depends where you are in the US ". We are discussing countries overall, not pockets of safety within a country.
In a discussion about least safest first world countries, countering an argument that the US isn't that bad by comparing it to countries, that aren't first world, should be part of the discussion.
One should challenge the argument that " it depends where you are in the US ". We are discussing countries overall, not pockets of safety within a country.
Great, then discuss it...why are you telling me this?
Whine all you want, it's a fact that Spain is far safer than the US.
If murder were extremely rare in any developed country as you'd like to believe, that would mean the US is not one of 'em.
Now take out the black on black murders and black on black crime overall. Once you do that you'll see that you have to take more preventive action in Spain to avoid being mugged than you do about being a victim of any crime in the US. Stay out of high crime black neighborhoods and life here is great. Europe has no culture like this, but they are working hard to get there now.
Now take out the black on black murders and black on black crime overall. Once you do that you'll see that you have to take more preventive action in Spain to avoid being mugged than you do about being a victim of any crime in the US. Stay out of high crime black neighborhoods and life here is great. Europe has no culture like this, but they are working hard to get there now.
Yeah, because White people in the US never participate in crime. They don't comprise a majority of the killers who have terrorized the US with mass shootings. They don't steal, do drugs or kill others.
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