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Old 08-22-2014, 03:29 AM
 
Location: Stockholm, Sweden
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I've thought for a while now that Australians seem a lot less Euro-focussed or Euro-aware than Canadians and possibly Americans as well. Perhaps we are? And with the average European immigrant being around 60 I wonder how long it will be before we totally lose any sense of connection with the Old World.
Cost and time probably plays a major role.

in 2012:

UK
From Australia: 436,000
From Canada: 908,000
From USA: 2,541,000
Italy
From Australia: 145,000
From Canada: 375,000
From USA: 1,949,000
France
From Australia: 117,000
From Canada: 729,000
From USA: 2,031,000
Germany
From Australia: 84,000
From Canada: 345,000
From USA: 1,714,000
Spain
From Australia: n/a
From Canada: 245,000
From USA: 1,133,000
Netherlands
From Australia: n/a
From Canada: 223,000
From USA: 643,000
Switzerland
From Australia: n/a
From Canada: 143,000
From USA: 567,000
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:32 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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I've thought for a while now that Australians seem a lot less Euro-focussed or Euro-aware than Canadians and possibly Americans as well. Perhaps we are? And with the average European immigrant being around 60 I wonder how long it will be before we totally lose any sense of connection with the Old World.
Time and Cost as well I am sure.

The main surprise for me is how high the USA is on the list, where do all those Aussies Go, Hawaii? Even California is a long and expensive flight away.
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Old 08-22-2014, 04:58 AM
 
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The main surprise for me is how high the USA is on the list, where do all those Aussies Go, Hawaii? Even California is a long and expensive flight away.
Yep its 18 hours, but its pretty easy to sleep through a lot of that. Airfares aren't that bad, maybe an extra $1k over somewhere closer to home like Singapore or Phuket.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:09 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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The UK is the only European Destination in the top 10 for Australians. Excluding the UK they were.

1) New Zealand
2) Indonesia
3) USA
4) Thailand
5) China
6) Singapore
7) Fiji
8) Malaysia
9) India

3401.0 - Overseas Arrivals and Departures, Australia, Jun 2014

Number 10 would possibly be Hong Kong or Japan.
We have bad taste in travelling.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia are one of the last places I'd travel to in the world. Fiji, China, Singapore and Singapore ain't that special either.

We must hate Europe for some reason because there isn't a single European country (besides UK) in the top 10...
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:25 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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^That's just proximity.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
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We have bad taste in travelling.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia are one of the last places I'd travel to in the world. Fiji, China, Singapore and Singapore ain't that special either.

We must hate Europe for some reason because there isn't a single European country (besides UK) in the top 10...
If indonesia is only bali then its not as worth as you had mentioned.
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Old 08-22-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Brisbane
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We have bad taste in travelling.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia are one of the last places I'd travel to in the world. Fiji, China, Singapore and Singapore ain't that special either.

We must hate Europe for some reason because there isn't a single European country (besides UK) in the top 10...
We don't hate Europe, It's a long way and expensive to get to, and East Asia has history, culture and food that rivals Europe. Do you think the area is just party Islands and Beaches?

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Old 08-22-2014, 06:29 AM
 
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We have bad taste in travelling.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia are one of the last places I'd travel to in the world. Fiji, China, Singapore and Singapore ain't that special either.
Have you been to any of them?
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Old 08-22-2014, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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I've thought for a while now that Australians seem a lot less Euro-focussed or Euro-aware than Canadians and possibly Americans as well. Perhaps we are? And with the average European immigrant being around 60 I wonder how long it will be before we totally lose any sense of connection with the Old World.
Well... a few things on this.

First of all, as Fikatid said the higher numbers for Canada-Europe as opposed to Canada-Australia is probably due to proximity more than anything else.

For many of us it is about as close, as close or closer to fly to Europe than to fly to the other end of our country. And sometimes cheaper or the same price.

Had I left earlier this morning I could have had dinner in Paris or London this evening.

That said, I am not sure about the "Euro focus" issue. Australians at the very least are much more UK-focused on an everyday level than Canadians are. There is more back and forth. Not saying that Australians are obsessed with the UK and that Brits are obsessed with Australia, but certainly there is more going on there than in Canada, where the focus is extremely directed towards the U.S.

Just an example, some of the British media ran articles recently about how cold this winter has been in Australia. You never get articles about stuff like this in Canada, and when you have exceptional weather occurrences (either cold or hot, or storms or whatever), when the British media talk about North America, it's always about the U.S. And the Canadian media cover the U.S. a million times more than they cover the U.K., with the possible exception of the Royal Family.

It could be that overall Canadians are more interested in Europe in general (including but not exclusively limited to the UK). You of course have the added quirk of French-speaking Canadians who pay attention to goings-on in France to some degree.

But certainly when it comes to the UK specifically, it's not in the mindspace of English-speaking Canadians as much as it is with Australians. That's for sure.
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Old 08-23-2014, 04:06 AM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Have you been to any of them?
Nope.

The photos and climate descriptions are enough. Visuals and descriptions matter too. You don't have to be there to be interested (or not) in a country. Southeast Asian countries just never looked appealing to me.
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