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View Poll Results: Which cities do you prefer & seem more interesting?
Canadian cities 54 48.21%
Nordic cities 58 51.79%
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:51 AM
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I'm not a fan of a skyscraper cluster and then endless highways and suburbia, so my vote go to the bikable, clean and safe Nordic cities.
Sure Canadian cities have more highways, less bikeable [though many are decent for North American standards] and sprawly suburbia and of course more skyscraper clusters, but it's possible Canadian cities have as many or more people living in the center city than Nordic cities. Not sure how you'd do a direct comparison, maybe a 2 or 5 mile radius from a city center?

For example, Vancouver has 44,000 people downtown (11,600 / square km) and another 55,000 (56,500 / square km) in its adjacent West End together comprise the downtown peninsula or center city. And there are several nearby neighborhoods that aren't far.
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Difficult to compare as the sizes are so different, both in population and municipal borders. The Turku Centre seems to have like 52,000 inhabitants.
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:28 AM
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Difficult to compare as the sizes are so different, both in population and municipal borders. The Turku Centre seems to have like 52,000 inhabitants.
I was thinking of the biggest Scandinavian cities, though only Copenhagen and Stockholm are big enough to be comparable. Vancouver's center probably feels the least European in form (too modern, too many high rises), Montreal the most.

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building styles still seem North American, similar to Philadelphia in a lot of ways.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:21 AM
 
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I was thinking of the biggest Scandinavian cities, though only Copenhagen and Stockholm are big enough to be comparable. Vancouver's center probably feels the least European in form (too modern, too many high rises), Montreal the most.
Why not Helsinki? It has more inhabitants than the city of Vancouver.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:26 AM
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Why not Helsinki? It has more inhabitants than the city of Vancouver.
Hmm. Urban or metro (add in the suburbs) Helsinki is half to two-thirds (1.1 - 1.4 million) the size of Vancouver (2.1 t- 2.3 million). But Helsinki must have a larger city center, so maybe it's comparable.
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Old 05-12-2015, 09:37 AM
 
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Hmm. Urban or metro (add in the suburbs) Helsinki is half to two-thirds (1.1 - 1.4 million) the size of Vancouver (2.1 t- 2.3 million). But Helsinki must have a larger city center, so maybe it's comparable.


Blue is the Centre, Suomenlinna fortress and the Lauttasaari district. 108k inhabitants. The brown inner city district has 89k, the purple (southern half) around 60k. Around 260k total.

Read it how you like, i can't say
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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Difficult to compare as the sizes are so different, both in population and municipal borders. The Turku Centre seems to have like 52,000 inhabitants.
It's also difficult to compare because where does the city centre or downtown stop? Central Ottawa has about 50,000 people as well. And this does not include several fairly urban areas that are adjacent to the central part of the city.

Somehow I doubt that people who like dense, vibrant urban environments would be dissatisfied with Canadian cities like Toronto, Montreal and even Vancouver. At least not for this specific criteria (density and "action" on the streets), and especially not in comparison to Nordic cities.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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Hmm. Urban or metro (add in the suburbs) Helsinki is half to two-thirds (1.1 - 1.4 million) the size of Vancouver (2.1 t- 2.3 million). But Helsinki must have a larger city center, so maybe it's comparable.
Municipal structures and boundaries are different Vancouver is about the same size as Stockholm and Copenhagen.

Helsinki, Oslo, Ottawa, Calgary and Edmonton are in a similar size category as well. Of the three Canadian cities, Ottawa would offer the closest urban feel/vibrancy to Oslo-Helsinki, followed by Calgary and then Edmonton.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:19 AM
 
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Hmm. Urban or metro (add in the suburbs) Helsinki is half to two-thirds (1.1 - 1.4 million) the size of Vancouver (2.1 t- 2.3 million). But Helsinki must have a larger city center, so maybe it's comparable.
Then only the Copenhagen Capital Region is comparable to Vancouver. Stockholm County is in effect a Province
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:26 AM
 
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Then only the Copenhagen Capital Region is comparable to Vancouver. Stockholm County is in effect a Province
The biggest metro in Scandinavia is called "Örestad" which includes Copenhagen and Malmö. This metro has 3.6 million people.

This is also the best metro in Scandinavia. It still sucks, but it sucks less than anywhere else. I voted Canada on this.
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