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View Poll Results: Which does Toronto resemble most?
London 1 1.22%
Queens, NY 12 14.63%
Philadelphia 5 6.10%
Buffalo 4 4.88%
Chicago 55 67.07%
Los Angeles 1 1.22%
San Francisco 4 4.88%
Voters: 82. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-01-2014, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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Looks pretty even to me.

Tallest inhabited building:

Toronto - 298 meters
Melbourne - 297.3 meters

Number of buildings over 150m:

Toronto - 31
Melbourne - 27



List of tallest buildings in Melbourne - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


List of tallest buildings in Toronto - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you look at the very link you provided for Toronto - actually count the number of buildings over 150 m... its now at 44... Goes to show how rapidly Toronto is constructing scrapers! That number will shoot up to 60 in the next year or two. Plus T.O has a plethora of 100-149 m buildings

Even its top 10 skew taller than Melbourne - that's not even counting the CN Tower at 553 m

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Old 09-01-2014, 07:59 AM
 
Location: Toronto
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I meant to say Victorian neighborhoods rather than "rowhouse neighborhoods" because though there are rowhouses, semi-detached is probably more common overall even in the pre-WWI neighborhoods. What do these areas resemble?
You did a great job compiling all those google links!
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:15 AM
 
Location: São Paulo, Brazil
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At least in terms of urbanism, according to what I saw in the Google Street View, Toronto is very similar to Chicago.
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:30 AM
 
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At least in terms of urbanism, according to what I saw in the Google Street View, Toronto is very similar to Chicago.
Any parts of Chicago in particular?
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Old 09-01-2014, 09:47 AM
 
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Some pics from the east end, east of the Don River.

Toronto's second Chinatown:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ea...2ce97e!6m1!1e1

Gerard St. India Bazaar:

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6721...Sw!2e0!6m1!1e1

Along the Danforth:

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6804...Lw!2e0!6m1!1e1

Further out on the Danforth which has emerged as the city's "Little Bangladesh":

https://www.google.com/maps/@43.6883...SS5s9v4yhg!2e0
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:13 PM
 
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If you look at the very link you provided for Toronto - actually count the number of buildings over 150 m... its now at 44... Goes to show how rapidly Toronto is constructing scrapers! That number will shoot up to 60 in the next year or two. Plus T.O has a plethora of 100-149 m buildings

Even its top 10 skew taller than Melbourne - that's not even counting the CN Tower at 553 m
For Melbourne as at August: 10 buildings over 150m under construction, a further 15 approved and waiting to build, and another 15 in the approval process.

CN Tower - that's like Sydney's Sydney tower, despite it hight (309m) it doesn't really impact on the skyline that much, and more of a structure than a building.
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Old 09-01-2014, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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For Melbourne as at August: 10 buildings over 150m under construction, a further 15 approved and waiting to build, and another 15 in the approval process.

CN Tower - that's like Sydney's Sydney tower, despite it hight (309m) it doesn't really impact on the skyline that much, and more of a structure than a building.
Hey i'm happy about Melbourne's skyscraper boom - really it just adds another parallel to Toronto and it has a great skyline that doesn't need to make any apologies - but facts are facts:

Right now Toronto has 44 buildings over 150m vs Melbourne's 28 and T.O has more U/C so it won't be catching Toronto anytime soon for scraper development.. If you look at the list you provided you'd see that. As for approved and proposed, they both look to have a lot of tall project coming down the pipe. In either city we have to take proposed and approved buildings with a bit of a grain of salt until they are U/C many things can change.

Toronto overall has 2500 highrise buildings and Melbourne has 555 (admittedly, Toronto has many many buildings dotted throughout the city not just in the DT core - not sure how pervasive this is in Melbourne but clearly not to the same degree based on the number T.O has in comparison).. As a matter of fact, few cities anywhere can compete with T.O on a per capita/highrise basis - some Asian and S.A cities and NYC - thats it.

List of cities with the most high-rise buildings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Toronto's top 10 and top 28 buildings for that matter all skew higher than Melbourne's and that doesn't include the CN Tower - albeit Toronto's don't skew that much higher - generally about 10- 20 metres taller.

The CN Tower is by far the most prominent part of the T.O Skyline.. It is a substantive freestanding 553 metre structure - how you can conclude it doesn't impact a skyline is beyond me. So I think Acajack's observation was correct.. At least for the next 5-10 years.

Trust me, I had to dot my i's and cross my t's with this post because Melbourne has surprised me in terms of number of skyscrapers and height - plus where the wind is blowing it looks very promising for that city.. In either case both of these cities are true skyscraper cities in the anglo world!

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Old 09-01-2014, 03:27 PM
 
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I don't actually see the Montreal/Philadelphia parallel. Montreal is more of an apartment city and Philly is a rowhouse Victorian city. I think an area like West Philadelphia resembles 19th century Toronto neighborhoods than Montreal ones.
Here's my take on the Montreal/Philly parallel: both cities have a well-defined historical centre, an edgy vibrant retail street (Sainte-Catherine/South St), seemingly endless lower middle class neighborhoods built on a grid, and a relative decline in importance vs., say, 100 years ago. None of those preclude a Toronto/Philly comparison but that's where the Montreal/Philly parallel comes from.
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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Why just Queens? I think Toronto is similar to NYC as a whole, just smaller of course. It also looks like Sydney, size and skyline wise.
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Old 09-01-2014, 08:54 PM
 
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Hey i'm happy about Melbourne's skyscraper boom - really it just adds another parallel to Toronto and it has a great skyline that doesn't need to make any apologies - but facts are facts:

Right now Toronto has 44 buildings over 150m vs Melbourne's 28 and T.O has more U/C so it won't be catching Toronto anytime soon for scraper development.. If you look at the list you provided you'd see that. As for approved and proposed, they both look to have a lot of tall project coming down the pipe. In either city we have to take proposed and approved buildings with a bit of a grain of salt until they are U/C many things can change.

Toronto overall has 2500 highrise buildings and Melbourne has 555 (admittedly, Toronto has many many buildings dotted throughout the city not just in the DT core - not sure how pervasive this is in Melbourne but clearly not to the same degree based on the number T.O has in comparison).. As a matter of fact, few cities anywhere can compete with T.O on a per capita/highrise basis - some Asian and S.A cities and NYC - thats it.

List of cities with the most high-rise buildings - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Toronto's top 10 and top 28 buildings for that matter all skew higher than Melbourne's and that doesn't include the CN Tower - albeit Toronto's don't skew that much higher - generally about 10- 20 metres taller.

The CN Tower is by far the most prominent part of the T.O Skyline.. It is a substantive freestanding 553 metre structure - how you can conclude it doesn't impact a skyline is beyond me. So I think Acajack's observation was correct.. At least for the next 5-10 years.

Trust me, I had to dot my i's and cross my t's with this post because Melbourne has surprised me in terms of number of skyscrapers and height - plus where the wind is blowing it looks very promising for that city.. In either case both of these cities are true skyscraper cities in the anglo world!
Wouldn't you want to get rid of the per capita part of the comparison for Toronto?
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