Which region wants to secede from your country? (shoppers, statistics)
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No i havent lived there but everything there just seems so familiar and doesn't feel that foreign to me and the people aren't that different, i felt like i could relate to them in many ways.
i even felt the same way about Florida, just like Minnesota except everything was so green, it seemed sunnier and driving on the freeways were sort of scary.
I can't really explain it to you then. I used to feel that way until I lived there. No, it's not like visiting China or Germany but still, there are marked differences, enough to question why they should remain in the same nation as Texas or Alabama. I used to think that Cascadians and Californians were more or less the same but now I can see how collectively, they are distinct.
I had a chuckle while watching the opening of the NFL Monday night game tonight. The big giant flag on the field with the national anthem. Stupid over the top meaningless patriotism while the country is falling apart in every way imaginable. People in PA could give a rats ass about Indiana and vice versa. The whole country is a failure. Zero unity, and maybe there never was any at any time anyway. Why are we all forced into this Union with all these 50 different little squabbling republics? Looks so stupid now.
Yeah, the country is a total failure. Based on what standard?
What a completely idiotic thing to say.
Would you say that, with current trends, the USA is succeeding:
1. Economically
2. Politically (including militarily and geopolitically)
3. Socioculturally
1. We are coming out of a recession/quasi-depression, but as compared with 5-6 years ago the US is in a far better place.
2. There has almost always been a very strong partisan nature to our politics. Militarily, we are stronger than ever (or as strong as ever), and we are not in the middle of a war (though we might end up back in Iraq, which is unfortunate).
3. Well, let's see: Women have more rights than ever before; minorities have more rights than ever before; religions have more rights than ever before. We have a strong educational system. You can open a business in two days with a couple of hundred bucks. What, exactly do you mean here?
How does any of this constitute an "absolute failure"? Why the hyperbole?
The US is still the strongest economy and military in the world, and it's not really close. China's economy may be "bigger" by some standards (as one might expect, considering they have 5X the population), but it isn't stronger; for instance, nearly 70% of its population is very poor (living on under $5/day).
Relative to the vast majority of countries in the world, the US is doing just fine. Are there areas to improve upon? Of course.
You should read "The Next 100 Years", by George Friedman; he illustrates the position the US is in very well.
Yeah, the country is a total failure. Based on what standard?
What a completely idiotic thing to say.
Because not everyone has the same political beliefs as him...
We made it through the Civil War and the Great Depression but now some rednecks from Texas made Tom upset we are now falling apart.
There is a certain minority of the country that is very divided, they are the ones who are overly obsessed with politics and look down on anyone with a different belief than them... for some odd reason these people think the rest of us are just at close minded and angry as they are we are not, we are doing just fine, most people are family member/neighbors/friends with people that have different political beliefs... and a lot of people just don't care about politics.
These people can be all angry and spout their intolerance all they want just don't lump us in with you all.
Your post proves nothing other than the ability for both the US government and other Americans to alienate people further than they may be already.
Let me repeat what I said; the president does not have the authority to grant nor deny secession. That is not one of the powers of the executive branch so Obama saying no was little more than symbolic.
As for the Supreme court cases; their decisions were not based on anything in the constitution simply because the constitution does not mention secession at all. It was suggested to John Adams I believe it was to add that to the US constitution. He specifically said no that outright forbidding secession would negate the fact that the states are in a voluntary union and that a free country with such a stipulation wouldn't really be free. To that end, there is no law in this country that technically forbids secession.
Another thing people like yourself need to realize is, if there is enough popularity in a secession movement, the laws of the dominant country would become irrelevant, just like they did under King George when 13 of his colonies seceded.
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I guess I am not articulating what I am trying to say well at all. I understand the president has no power to do that. His response though, is very indicative of where you stand though, as far as gov't goes. Not just the president, but state and local officials as well.
That is an important thing and it does matter, and it matters a lot. Our gov't is very powerful, and if they don't want something in this country, it isn't going to happen. That's just how that goes. Noone has to like it, but that is the reality.
The Supreme Court ruled against secession in 1869. Nothing has changed. IMO, the Supreme Court will never allow it.
To allow secession, it means the fed gov loses power. It means the Supreme Court loses power. It means they lose land and resources and total control.
Employment and labor force participation figures are terrible and getting worse. The middle class is being destroyed. Stocks and EBT card usage are both at all time highs, illustrating worsening wealth disparity. Manufacturing is mostly shipped overseas, many cities are close to bankrupt, and child poverty figures are shocking by developed world standards. 17 trillion USD in debt and growing. Retail is collapsing.
2. Politically (including militarily and geopolitically)
The government is rocked by scandal after scandal. US foreign policy is a laughing stock. The US's closest allies have been alienated and disillusioned. Obama is more keen on practicing his golf swing than doing his job. Disastrous rollout of Obamacare. A recent military disaster in Iraq. Mission NOT accomplished in Afghanistan. Meddling in Syria has led to the rise of ISIL and threats of terrorist attacks at home. A US-organized coup in Ukraine has led to a catastrophic civil war in the country and damaging sanctions for the EU.
3. Socioculturally
Divorce and out of wedlock pregnancy rates are high. Educational standards are a joke compared to other first world nations. Lawlessness and violence are in the rise. Obesity statistics are beyond a joke. Incarceration rates are ridiculous. Media has a heavy liberal bias and is serving more and more as a propaganda wing of the executive branch of government.
And worst of all ... some people actually think the USA is improving.
Employment and labor force participation figures are terrible and getting worse. The middle class is being destroyed. Stocks and EBT card usage are both at all time highs, illustrating worsening wealth disparity. Manufacturing is mostly shipped overseas, many cities are close to bankrupt, and child poverty figures are shocking by developed world standards. 17 trillion USD in debt and growing. Retail is collapsing.
2. Politically (including militarily and geopolitically)
The government is rocked by scandal after scandal. US foreign policy is a laughing stock. The US's closest allies have been alienated and disillusioned. Obama is more keen on practicing his golf swing than doing his job. Disastrous rollout of Obamacare. A recent military disaster in Iraq. Mission NOT accomplished in Afghanistan. Meddling in Syria has led to the rise of ISIL and threats of terrorist attacks at home. A US-organized coup in Ukraine has led to a catastrophic civil war in the country and damaging sanctions for the EU.
3. Socioculturally
Divorce and out of wedlock pregnancy rates are high. Educational standards are a joke compared to other first world nations. Lawlessness and violence are in the rise. Obesity statistics are beyond a joke. Incarceration rates are ridiculous. Media has a heavy liberal bias and is serving more and more as a propaganda wing of the executive branch of government.
And worst of all ... some people actually think the USA is improving.
No its just better than the 70s and 80s however.
Pregnancy rates were even higher back in the 70's, horrible crime rates, our cities were very ghetto, people were more obsessed with telling others how to live, and the infrastructure is far better.
On top of that......, litigation culture, materialism, bad infrastructure, rigged markets, police being militarized, erosion of civil liberties by executive order,
In many many ways much worse than the horrible ghettos and slums of the 1970s, out of control crime and the crack epidemic of the 80s. The US is in for some very hard times ahead.
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