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Old 09-28-2014, 11:38 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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The US is about 9 - 10x Canada's population size yet only has 4x as much potential immigrants. So the real question is: Why do so many people want to move to Canada relative to population size compared to the US? My guess would be: better and more accessible(cheaper) education and health-care, less (violent) crime, less urban decay, more serious political system, better job opportunities, less poverty etc.


More of your anti-American trolling! What a surprise! I'd love to scour every single one of your posts and see if your trollness doesn't include maybe ONE post that isn't anti-American. I doubt I'd find it. You sir, are pathetic!
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Old 09-29-2014, 03:04 AM
 
Location: Westminster, London
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Are you stating there has been absolutely zero religious based resistance to formal education ever in the history of the US?
As far as I've seen, some religious communities in the USA object to what is taught, not education per se.

If formal education constitutes exposure to potentially harmful ideologies or the kind of outdated epistemic naturalism that is spoonfed alongside the core sciences, then I can understand why it is they would object.

Not everyone can afford specialised private education for their children.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:59 AM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Its probably a lot easier to gain visa's to Canada then the US today since 9 11. You can't just marry a American anymore. It's a long process to immigrate to stay. Especially if not a highly educated professional. The US doesn't even give out enough visitors Visa's, that people in the world seek. They can have waits for years. It wasn't easy for my brother to bring his foreign born and raised wife over and ultimately to get a visa to last till she gains citizenship. She was threatened with deportation when she spent a few months with a sister in another state, not with my brother as if they separated ? So Canada is a great second choice or first. Another Big reason is access to FREE health care in Canada VS the US. It can be big on ones mind for choice, if you have some physical issues. Would be for me if seeking between the US and Canada and I have no health issues.

Not at all trying to diminish ...Canada for a first choice. But we have to see it has become a best second choice with similar lifestyle with the USA giving these post-9 11 times with Isis as a new threat. They are not choosing Canadians to behead? Canada gains by not on their radar but losses no benefits, even gains. The US as a always on the blame, accuse and declare their key cultural and religious enemy. Makes Canada a much safer choice, without the baggage and political fallout.
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Its probably a lot easier to gain visa's to Canada then the US today since 9 11. You can't just marry a American anymore. It's a long process to immigrate to stay. Especially if not a highly educated professional. The US doesn't even give out enough visitors Visa's, that people in the world seek. They can have waits for years. It wasn't easy for my brother to bring his foreign born and raised wife over and ultimately to get a visa to last till she gains citizenship. She was threatened with deportation when she spent a few months with a sister in another state, not with my brother as if they separated ? So Canada is a great second choice or first. Another Big reason is access to FREE health care in Canada VS the US. It can be big on ones mind for choice, if you have some physical issues. Would be for me if seeking between the US and Canada and I have no health issues.

Not at all trying to diminish ...Canada for a first choice. But we have to see it has become a best second choice with similar lifestyle with the USA giving these post-9 11 times with Isis as a new threat. They are not choosing Canadians to behead? Canada gains by not on their radar but losses no benefits, even gains. The US as a always on the blame, accuse and declare their key cultural and religious enemy. Makes Canada a much safer choice, without the baggage and political fallout.
I'm no expert on visa's etc, but if someone is thinking of immigrating to Canada and they have health issues, and choose Canada for it's universal care, they will probably be rejected and not allowed entry.

Medical exam for permanent residents


Not choosing Canadians to behead sounds like you are focussing on one group that is currently making headlines. Canadians have been held by terrorist groups and even journalists by governments on allegedly trumped up charges.

I have NO idea how accurate this link is, but it states currently the US has 11 people being held and Canada 2. So if you go per capita, Canada has more people being held per it's population.

IntelCenter Hostages Currently Held Interactive Map

Your assumption that Canada is invisible on the world stage and therefore safer is not actually true.

However I will concede that more hatred is directed at the US from certain groups than Canada, but I doubt very much if they had one Canadian in the room and one American, that they'd spare either, or any citizen of a country they perceive as the enemy.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:11 AM
 
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Its easy in the United States, i'm sure it is just as easy in Europe.

what exactly do you mean by assimilate?

My parents bought a house which my grandparents had rented. About 20 years later neighbors started greeting my mother as she was not a newcomer anymore.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:24 AM
 
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As with most threads on here: The US is neither as good nor as bad as people make it out to be. Its education system is fine, its healthcare is fine (in terms of quality). Yet, it isn't as easy as people think to become a millionaire (or even middle class), and it can be rather dangerous in some areas.
People are so extreme on the Internet. I guess that's just par for the course.
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Old 09-29-2014, 12:14 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Why do people prefer by a landslide to move to the US?
I think most people in the world think of immigrating to the U.S. as winning the lottery.

That's basically true if you're coming from a developing nation, so you can't really blame those people.
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Old 09-29-2014, 01:26 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Its probably a lot easier to gain visa's to Canada then the US today since 9 11. You can't just marry a American anymore. It's a long process to immigrate to stay. Especially if not a highly educated professional. The US doesn't even give out enough visitors Visa's, that people in the world seek. They can have waits for years. It wasn't easy for my brother to bring his foreign born and raised wife over and ultimately to get a visa to last till she gains citizenship. She was threatened with deportation when she spent a few months with a sister in another state, not with my brother as if they separated ? So Canada is a great second choice or first. Another Big reason is access to FREE health care in Canada VS the US. It can be big on ones mind for choice, if you have some physical issues. Would be for me if seeking between the US and Canada and I have no health issues.

Not at all trying to diminish ...Canada for a first choice. But we have to see it has become a best second choice with similar lifestyle with the USA giving these post-9 11 times with Isis as a new threat. They are not choosing Canadians to behead? Canada gains by not on their radar but losses no benefits, even gains. The US as a always on the blame, accuse and declare their key cultural and religious enemy. Makes Canada a much safer choice, without the baggage and political fallout.
Canada is very, very difficult to get into. The wait lists are years long and extremely specific. If you overstay your visa you WILL be deported, forthwith.
Furthermore, what on earth is "free" healthcare? There's no such thing. We pay dearly for it. So much so, that even when we have illegals taking refuge in churches, begging to stay on compassionate grounds because they're sick, we still boot them out. We just can't take in every diabetic with heart conditions and senile parents...it just costs too much and the whole system could collapse unless everyone pays into it.
Every week there are stories in the paper of another cancer victim begging to stay because they'll die in their own countries. It's usually futile.
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Old 09-29-2014, 09:53 PM
 
Location: East Central Pennsylvania/ Chicago for 6yrs.
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Thanks for the comments to my post. Just some questions to the are? Should I believe the worlds people seek Canada over the US? Because of the ratio of number immigrants visa's per its population VS the US? Of course, we can't count how many illegal entries from Mexico the US gets to visa numbers. Am I to also see Canada is harder to get a visa to VS the US too either? I didn't believe Canada would deport someone getting Cancer treatment? Back to a 3rd world nation that lacks it? seems if in the news? Some donations for it Would come in? Having deportation put on hold at least?
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Old 09-29-2014, 10:15 PM
 
Location: Montreal, Quebec
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Thanks for the comments to my post. Just some questions to the are? Should I believe the worlds people seek Canada over the US? Because of the ratio of number immigrants visa's per its population VS the US? Of course, we can't count how many illegal entries from Mexico the US gets to visa numbers. Am I to also see Canada is harder to get a visa to VS the US too either? I didn't believe Canada would deport someone getting Cancer treatment? Back to a 3rd world nation that lacks it? seems if in the news? Some donations for it Would come in? Having deportation put on hold at least?
Yep. Happens all the time.
http://montreal.ctvnews.ca/cancer-pa...sday-1.1577971

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/06/1...to-save-costs/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/ex-gangster-w...ation-1.920890

http://montreal.mediacoop.ca/story/p...-disgrace/8216

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