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View Poll Results: Whose beer do you like better?
America 19 26.39%
Europe 40 55.56%
I don't like beer 5 6.94%
Whatever. I'll drink anything with alcohol in it 8 11.11%
Voters: 72. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-31-2014, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Basic everyday beer that people drink to get drunk is easily better in Europe. Though American Pale Ale I like
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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I'd take an average beer from Germany, i.e. a Paulaner, Spaten, Oettinger, etc over a Budweiser, Coors, Miller, etc any day of the week.

However, as a lot of people have pointed out, the craft brewing explosion in the US means that if you assume that all people in the US drink are 3.5% ABV pale straw-colored beers that cost $4.99 for a 6-pack, you are very sorely mistaken.
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Old 10-31-2014, 11:51 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I'd take an average beer from Germany, i.e. a Paulaner, Spaten, Oettinger, etc over a Budweiser, Coors, Miller, etc any day of the week.

However, as a lot of people have pointed out, the craft brewing explosion in the US means that if you assume that all people in the US drink are 3.5% ABV pale straw-colored beers that cost $4.99 for a 6-pack, you are very sorely mistaken.
Yeah the average beer is better in Europe but the craft brewing and creative beers in the USA trump Europe's traditional beers.
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Old 10-31-2014, 01:29 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Yeah the average beer is better in Europe but the craft brewing and creative beers in the USA trump Europe's traditional beers.
So apparently you just like the styles produced by American craft breweries (IPAs, ...) more than European styles.
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Old 10-31-2014, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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So apparently you just like the styles produced by American craft breweries (IPAs, ...) more than European styles.
Some American craft breweries produce German and Austrian style beers including some styles that are rare or even extinct in their home countries such as the amber Vienna Lager.

Most American craft breweries brew European styles, although the bias is definitely towards the British and Belgian traditions.
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Old 10-31-2014, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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Whoever started this thread can't be serious. I love so many things about the USA but beer is definitely one thing we know NOTHING about.

I will give you the example of Weihenstephaner, probably my favorite beer in the world and not just a matter of personal preference, this beer is often ranked #1 by several critics and the Beer World Awards, ranked the Weiheinstephaner Vitus, the best beer in the world in 2011.

The Weihenstephan Abbey(Kloster Weihenstephan) has been brewing beer for over 930 years, it is the world's oldest continuing operating brewery in the world. To even try to compare something like this to a beer made by a microbrewery started 20 years ago in Portland, Oregon should be considered a crime.

I also encourage you to learn more about the German purity law(Reinheitsgebot) and the history of brewing in Europe.

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Old 10-31-2014, 10:39 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Europe by a mile. It isn't that American beer isn't good...there are a few really good micro brews. European beer is just great. My three favorite beers are European...
3. Fuller's ESB
2. Hofbrau Hefeweizen
1. Fuller's London Pride...
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Old 11-01-2014, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Some American craft breweries produce German and Austrian style beers including some styles that are rare or even extinct in their home countries such as the amber Vienna Lager.

Most American craft breweries brew European styles, although the bias is definitely towards the British and Belgian traditions.
What I meant was:
I would be curious, if people would really notice a huge difference between, say, US craft Pils/Märzen/... and Euro "whatever". Quite frankly, I doubt it.
They seem to like beers that don't taste like the usual Lager/... which is still pretty much the standard beer type. So, I'm curious whether people like American craft breweries, because they really like their beers or because they brew "different" beers.

Same with Belgian beers and German wheat beers, by the way.
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Old 11-01-2014, 03:06 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Whoever started this thread can't be serious. I love so many things about the USA but beer is definitely one thing we know NOTHING about.

The Weihenstephan Abbey(Kloster Weihenstephan) has been brewing beer for over 930 years, it is the world's oldest continuing operating brewery in the world. To even try to compare something like this to a beer made by a microbrewery started 20 years ago in Portland, Oregon should be considered a crime.

I also encourage you to learn more about the German purity law(Reinheitsgebot) and the history of brewing in Europe.
If you study the history of brewing in Europe, you would know that the very ingredients of beer, from the ways malt is made to the varietals of hops, to the processes of the brewhouse, have been in constant flux for centuries, and changed radically in the 19th and again in the 20th centuries. The Weihenstephaner today is a different beer from the one 150 years ago, much less 930 years ago. I have actually visited the brewery in conjunction with TU München. It is a state of the art brewery that uses the contemporary range of Munich and wheat malts, as well as a widely available Hefeweizen yeast strain for their flagship product. They do not have a recipe from an ancient tome or a magic wand, just good recipes, good brewhouse process, and good cellaring. That is what makes Weihenstephaner successful.

As far as the Reinheitsgebot, that is a regulation that has stifled German beer. It has protected the quality but only of a very narrow range of styles. This means that an unknown number of traditional German beers is lost forever just because they fall out of the narrow, restrictive wording of a regulatory law that was largely instituted to protect certain commodities as much as it was to prevent mediocrity. Most of the lauded beers of Belgium would be illegal to brew under the Reinheitsgebot.

As far as a 20 year old brewery being able to brew something more appreciable than a centuries old brewery, it happens all the time. The brewery Stella Artois goes back to the 14th century.
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Old 11-02-2014, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Lebanon, OH
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Altbier, the brown ale found in Düsseldorf Germany is the best in the world(Gatzweiler, Schumacher, Schlösser, Frankenheim, Düssel)

Canadian beer is better than mass produced US beer, PBR is best followed closely by Miller, light beer is watered down crap.
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