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Old 11-09-2014, 11:27 AM
 
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Problem with Americans is relations with Eirupe are intercepted by Hollywood, jewish Hollywood. It that weren't the case..the diferrence would not be much.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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Problem with Americans is relations with Eirupe are intercepted by Hollywood, jewish Hollywood. It that weren't the case..the diferrence would not be much.
The 1930`s was long time ago.
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Old 11-09-2014, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Yeah, but by allowing hate speech, the personal freedom of others would be infringed. And quite frankly, I value the freedom to live a life without being hassled night and day by certain far-right fringe groups more dearly than being free to insult and wager unreasonable hate against other groups.

Well, how about countries who doesn't have influential extreme-right fringe groups like Finland?
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Old 11-09-2014, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Hong Kong / Vienna
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Well, how about countries who doesn't have influential extreme-right fringe groups like Finland?
Then there isn't a problem to begin with.

Quite frankly, though, most (if not all) European countries have extremist groups. Far-right, far-left and other groups like the Salafi movement are pretty much everywhere
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:39 PM
 
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corporate america and social conservatives are bedfellows in america and its corporate america which benefits most from this , this is much less the case in europe where working class conservative people are unlikely to be worried about how much tax donald trump is paying , working class conservatives in america have an incredible capacity for voting against their own interests

both have concerns about immigration
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Old 11-09-2014, 03:45 PM
 
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Then there isn't a problem to begin with.

Quite frankly, though, most (if not all) European countries have extremist groups. Far-right, far-left and other groups like the Salafi movement are pretty much everywhere
That's true and it's definitely true for bulgaria which is currently run by a party whose motto is "bulgaria above all"...and there you have Volen Siderov: a guy who finished 2nd on the president elections years ago and was trying to explain that bulgaria should put the Turks in gas chambers...interesting guy....his popularity though decreased greatly in recent years. He is now supported by just 4% of the nuttjobs or so.
Though, I am more "worried" by the rise of far-rights in western europe, the extremists in eastern europe aren't that big, unless you include Ukraine, but Ukraine is currently acting like an American puppet...so they'd do whatever the Americans want.
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:00 PM
 
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Problem with Americans is relations with Eirupe are intercepted by Hollywood, jewish Hollywood. It that weren't the case..the diferrence would not be much.
If Hollywood was Jewish, don't you think it would have been more conservative ? (women dresscode, strong dislike of LGBT, no sex scenes and etc)
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Old 11-09-2014, 04:59 PM
 
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If Hollywood was Jewish, don't you think it would have been more conservative ? (women dresscode, strong dislike of LGBT, no sex scenes and etc)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duqacB3Ci7A

those evil jews...
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Well, I don't like to think of either as COLLECTIVELY right or left....

I personally just see POCKETS....pockets like Amsterdam, San Francisco, Seattle, Copenhagen, etc. are liberal.

Others are conservative like Poland, Kansas, Romania, Montana, etc.

I personally just see that the U.S. representative system created a system of representation that gives a lot of power to rural folk and underpopulated States, so therefore in a Federal way, states like Mississippi and tons of southern states have immense leveraging power against the larger and much more liberal population centers in the U.S. like New York, California, Massachussetts, etc.

Meanwhile in Europe, the populated places like Poland, former Eastern Europe doesn't have as much influence over the decisions of decidedly much more 'liberal' parts of Europe...so therefore in an EU way, the power seems to more in the wealthy areas, which are generally quite a bit more liberal in general than their less wealthy areas.

In short, the liberal cities in Europe have the EU power; whereas the large money-creating 'liberal' cities in the U.S. have to constantly obey the 'moral objections' of poorer more rural less-educated states.....on a federal level.
Great answer!
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Old 11-09-2014, 05:08 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Swedish politican Michael Hess was sentenced to a fine and probation for hate speech for writing the following comment on his facebook page:

Not that I agree with his politics, but he has a fundamental right to free speech nontheless. But not in this country, and infact not in most of Europe.
Bill Maher had better never visit Sweden. He is a left wing liberal but he is highly critical of Islam and has said stuff like this and worse.

Now you said, most of Europe. Is most of Europe as restrictive as Sweden when it comes to free speech?
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