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Old 03-17-2015, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Gatineau, Québec
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Somehow I doubt that the social climate in Finland is that closed-minded to certain lifestyle choices that families (and especially women) can make.

That said, I definitely do see government measures like parental leave, subsidized daycare, etc. that help mothers enter (or re-enter) the workforce - if they choose to do so - as a positive societal development.

 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:18 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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And we're happy not to pay such high taxes, in return for more disposable income. The bottom line is that neither system results in a significantly higher or lower percentage of stay at home moms.
Who are you referring to by "we"? Many Americans are happy with the current situation, others not so much. No clue how Finns feel about their current situation. Even if the overall cost is the same in both systems, the taxpayers funded system have some advantages. For unpaid leave, families need to make sure to have enough savings, and for lower paid workers a long unpaid leave may be impractical. Overall, it trades some disposable income for more security, with bigger advantages for lower paid workers.
 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:36 AM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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Eh? I thought my suburb was very stereotypical, but there were very few apartment complexes. Would one with more apartments feel less typically suburban? Houses weren't brand new either but old.
Where i live there are plenty of them scattered around.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9435...SXCP6LfeDQ!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9432...Z6ZFp5_oVQ!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9377...uYeXMn_qkw!2e0

Plenty of townhomes too.. townhomes are my favorite.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9141...QfvI0Qgrbw!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9115...1rChdWERHg!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9281...WqrVzXX6wA!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.9020...mrFBUIK-7g!2e0
 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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Boston's are unusually old, and the city is relatively small so a lot of old neighborhoods aren't part of the city proper.
This is my neighborhood in the Dorchester section of Boston

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2955...CjZBfRLGHQ!2e0

https://www.google.com/maps/@42.2962...VIRFIEdOEw!2e0
 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:39 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Have you migrated from the Politics forum?
 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:56 AM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Nice houses. My image of Dorchester is a bit run down, forget that it has nice parts.

Again, for Scandinavian posters, do those wooden home close together look at all Scandinavian?
 
Old 03-17-2015, 10:58 AM
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Where i live there are plenty of them scattered around.
Yea, we don't get those on Long Island much except in certain spots. A lot areas don't allow them by zoning. Common style, less fancy suburban area:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hu...ed5279b08015d4

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Hu...ed5279b08015d4
 
Old 03-17-2015, 11:06 AM
 
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This is what a Pennsylvania "first line suburb" typically looks like. These are suburbs closest to the core city, and nowadays are the transition between true urban and true suburban as these are usually pretty dense for a typical suburb (but not as dense as urban) and is adequately served by public transit

https://goo.gl/maps/yrNF6

Judging from how the houses look, the neighborhood was built around WWII. Upper Darby, PA right outside of Philadelphia
 
Old 03-17-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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A lot of New England including outer Boston is like that, more than many people realize. The West, especially California doesn't have much of those. Instead, you have new packed in suburbia like shown in the OP. Typical outer suburb of San Francisco:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7487...0kZL1hXxIA!2e0

Looks nice until the water runs out. That San Francisco suburb may even vote Republican, if it does probably not by much; overall county Obama won by a 35 point margin so unlikely.
A lot of new developments in the Midwest or less leafy than even this. In the Midwest, the new neighborhoods are trying to be like the Northeast, but just doesn't have the character. Something about cramming houses close together in the Midwest doesn't quite "feel" the same when the Northeast does it (or rather, has been doing it on and off for 200 years).

https://goo.gl/maps/hQyxk

Even our smaller towns and cities' housing stock looks much like this nearer the town center. West and south of PA, these don't exist much, if at all.

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Really? Hmm Norfolk is pretty flat. Move to Hull great place.

Just outside Norwich
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/...4ca5e00e12452f
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.64...uMYl-dzxdA!2e0






Yeah there not great looking but the streets are smaller and the scale seems more manageable than the 'burbs theunbrainwashed showed me.
I found way better looking neighborhoods around Norwich
 
Old 03-17-2015, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Buenos Aires and La Plata, ARG
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A lot of New England including outer Boston is like that, more than many people realize. The West, especially California doesn't have much of those. Instead, you have new packed in suburbia like shown in the OP. Typical outer suburb of San Francisco:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.7487...0kZL1hXxIA!2e0

Looks nice until the water runs out. That San Francisco suburb may even vote Republican, if it does probably not by much; overall county Obama won by a 35 point margin so unlikely.
The best suburb by a mile. You can see how the different architectures of the houses there helps to build the identity and the soul in the neighbourhood. Its a perfect example of the Adam smith's "invisible hand".

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This is great too.
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