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Old 04-05-2015, 07:26 PM
 
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Not British or any specific nationality but European.
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Old 04-05-2015, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Sydney, Australia
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Ok... so you claim that snow blindness is more a factor than relentless sun?

First of all, in the Arctic and high latitudes the period when there's snow (winter) the daylight hours are few (5 hours 45 minutes during winter solstice at my latitude), winters are especially in Europe extremely gloomy (little reflection) and so on. For example my location gets less sunshine in the November-February period than in the month of July.

Meanwhile in Sahara where the environment is also very light (sandy), places like Tunis gets 1000 hours of more sun than my city and the sun angle is very high, all logic says to me that Saharans should have small eyes too. But they don't. Why? Coastal locations are usually sunnier and windier than inland locations, so people living in Ireland should have really really small eyes simply because of the wind.

I'm quite confident that this reflection thing is just BS and an urban legend, the Inuits have small eyes simply because their heritage is Asian.

I never need sunglasses in winter, but need them in summer. Still you claim that a wintery, snowy reflection is due to of evolution and adaption, while actual sunshine isn't? It's simply illogical.
I couldn't agree more.

Inuits and the rest of the polar people have these (slanted) eyes simply because they originated from Eastern Asia. It was probably a "fluke" in evolution that somehow occurred in that part of Asia.

If it wasn't a fluke, wouldn't Europeans and North Africans also obtain small eyes with an epicanthal fold?

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What do my eyes look like?
The eyebrows and its ridge would tell a lot (if you happened to show them).

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Italian or Slavic?
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Old 04-06-2015, 03:21 AM
 
Location: Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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I am calm. Why doesn't Berbers or like Pueblo peoples too have small eyes, as they are very much exposed to light.
Berbers do have epicanthical folds, don't they?

These are Moroccan Berbers

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...28399916552666


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...28399948232253



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Why do Chinese people have, but Swedes or Finns or Ukrainians don't look like this:
Another common name for epicantical fold, is Nordic Fold.

Look at the Sami people for example:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...28399977421116


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...28400012340204


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Our snow and sun is somewhat different? And why wouldn't daylight hours matter? After all, we are talking about light, right?
Maybe? Maybe the snow is different that far north. Less moisture in the air? We are talking about radiation. Snow reflects up to 80% of UV radiation. Dry sand, reflects 15%.

There is a reason more modern Inuit even went so far as to develop these for protection:


https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...28400051224363


http://www.christies.com/lotfinderim.../d4648452x.jpg


^^ look familiar?

As I said, I have no doubt that the Inuit eyes are the shape they are due to their Asian heritage, but I have no doubt this is why they were originally developed this way. Theropod's explanation of it being a "fluke" is wrong, as I've just shown Europeans, and North Africans with epicanthal folds. You can't just poo-poo this stuff away as urban legend.



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If wind is the problem, why do Celtic people, who inhabit some very windswept regions like Brittany and Scotland don't have small eyes?
But some do.

These men are Irish


http://www.heritagecouncil.ie/educat...er-exhibition/

However, after many generations of mixing with the rest of the UK, these traits have probably dropped off.

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This Tuareg man wears a tagelmust, you definitely see he needs protection from light, sand and wind:
Indeed he does. So does this one:


https://www.google.ca/url?sa=i&rct=j...28400299912824

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I'm still confident that the snow-reflection is an urban legend. Surprised that you as a Canadian, well accustomed to snow, actually believes it.
lol Well, I don't know what to tell ya, man. I could very well be wrong, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not.

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Old 04-06-2015, 03:34 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Another common name for epicantical fold, is Nordic Fold.

Look at the Sami people for example:


Maybe? Maybe the snow is different that far north. Less moisture in the air? We are talking about radiation. Snow reflects up to 80% of UV radiation. Dry sand, reflects 15%.

You can't just poo-poo this stuff away as urban legend.
The Sami people are a small minority in Norway, Sweden and Finland. They don't represent the general population. And we have been here just for only 10,000 years, the humans haven't evolved much since. The Sami are of European peoples the one who are genetically least European.

More moisture, most likely. It's a hell lot humid and damp here than say, Winnipeg in winter.

I think I can. FAS children are probably really good tolerating sun. If on average here the snow cover last for roughly 3 months of the year, this year it was like 2 weeks, I severely doubt the snow season would overplay the green season, which is 9 months of the year.

Not that I'm at all interested in this 19th century skull measurement at all either. It just reeks of nazi, like in 99% of my fellow Europeans, you probably understand the cultural stigma. Before joining C-D I wasn't even aware that skull-measurement, ethnicity, eye and skin colour and looking at pictures of individual and labeling different traits is common over there. TBH, I find it quite barbarian. So is also collecting data on ethnicity.
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Old 04-06-2015, 04:31 AM
 
Location: Mount of Showing the Way
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Japanese eye
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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Why the characters in Japanese comics (manga and anime) have always very big eyes?

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Old 04-06-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Why the characters in Japanese comics (manga and anime) have always very big eyes?

Japanese think the bigger the merrier when it comes to eyes, I guess. They try to do the same in real life as well.


Like these ladies.
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Old 04-06-2015, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Fortaleza, Brazil
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wow...

that's what I call "real life manga"...
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Japanese with naturally big eyes are less genetically close to nearby people of similar latitude, such as Koreans, Manchus, Northern Han Chinese and Mongols.

I do not know if Ainus have large or smaller eyes.

Taiwanese aboriginals, Filipino, Indonesians and Pacific Islanders usually have large eyes.
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Old 04-06-2015, 07:44 PM
 
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It varies. Vietnam was ruled by China for about 1000 years, and Central to Southern Vietnam were different kingdoms populated by Austronesians and Khmers. Some ethnic groups have assimilated into mainstream Vietnamese, while there are still some ethnic minorities in Inland Vietnam, there are some Hoa people originating from China.
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SE Asian except vietnamese, they have small eyes ( slanted eye) like a typical East Asian eye

Indonesian Eyes :

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