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View Poll Results: Which has better natural scenery, California or Italy?
California 105 55.56%
Italy 84 44.44%
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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I agree. This can be said about the Western US in general. About 30 percent of the Western states are absolutely gorgeous mountains, forests, and badlands - the remaining 70 percent is barren desert, scrubland, short-grass prairies, farmland and sprawling cities.
Call me weird but I find beauty in all of it - desert, prairies, farms and sprawling cities.
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Old 07-03-2015, 05:37 PM
 
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The Western US has vastly less sprawling population than Europe does. It isn't even close.


The population density of California is 95 people/sq km. The population density of Italy is 202 people/sq km.
Right, sprawling as in massive relatively low density urban areas. LA is truly one vast urban sprawl reaching basically from southern Ventura county all the way through Orange county and bordering sections of Riverside and San Bernardino counties.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:02 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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The Western US has vastly less sprawling population than Europe does. It isn't even close.



http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/dow...PopDensity.pdf



http://sedac.ciesin.columbia.edu/dow...PopDensity.pdf

The population density of California is 95 people/sq km. The population density of Italy is 202 people/sq km.
California is mostly rural and wild land. Most of it's population is concentrated in two giant metros with two smaller metros adjacent to them. The western US is pretty sparsely populated. I drive across country and you can go for an entire day without seeing much more than a random two digit population town.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:04 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Right, sprawling as in massive relatively low density urban areas. LA is truly one vast urban sprawl reaching basically from southern Ventura county all the way through Orange county and bordering sections of Riverside and San Bernardino counties.
Los Angeles is an exception. It is both sprawling and rather dense. LA county has more people than 43 states.
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Old 07-03-2015, 10:39 PM
 
Location: SoCal & Mid-TN
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California has over 800 miles of coastline - everything from calm lagoons to dramatic cliffs (Big Sur). We have both high and low desert, and the tallest mountain the the lower 48 states (Mt. Whitney) in the beautiful Sierra Nevada. We have the biggest and oldest trees in the world (Giant Sequoia, California Redwood, and the Bristlecone Pine). And if you are looking for a beautiful city, look no further than San Francisco (those hills, the Golden Gate). California has some of the most diverse and beautiful natural beauty on the planet - and I didn't even mention Lassen National Park (volcano).
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Old 07-04-2015, 05:28 AM
 
Location: near Turin (Italy)
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California has over 800 miles of coastline - everything from calm lagoons to dramatic cliffs (Big Sur). We have both high and low desert, and the tallest mountain the the lower 48 states (Mt. Whitney) in the beautiful Sierra Nevada. We have the biggest and oldest trees in the world (Giant Sequoia, California Redwood, and the Bristlecone Pine). And if you are looking for a beautiful city, look no further than San Francisco (those hills, the Golden Gate). California has some of the most diverse and beautiful natural beauty on the planet - and I didn't even mention Lassen National Park (volcano).
Italy has 4 634 miles of coastline, and we have some spectacular spots too
Salento https://www.google.it/search?q=punta...9thYi4YzAcM%3A
Sardinia, the "pink beach" https://www.google.it/search?q=spiag...ed=0CAcQ_AUoAg

And we also have one mountains higher than your Mt. Whitney, the "Monte Bianco" (exactly on the border line with France). There is also the "Monte Rosa", but the peak is on the Swiss side of the borderline...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Blanc

The inner part of Sicily and Sardinia are quite dry, but we don't have any real desert.
https://www.google.it/search?q=entro...4tVnIgnxLXM%3A a <-- inner Sicily, one of the driest places in Italy I can think of.

Also about trees, we have a couple of millennial trees, but you probably win also in this aspect.

About cities and towns, the situation is really different. We are more into smaller town and cities, not too far one from each other, than into huge metropolis which concentrate the most of the population. In practice we are more regularly spread all over the country.
In addition, Italy has an higher (average) population density, and the first cities were founded something like 3000 years ago (so we had a lot of time for occupy all the available land). This means that in practice here it is really difficult to find a completely wild and unspoiled natural place, without anything which is man-made in your view.
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Old 07-04-2015, 06:30 AM
 
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California, just bigger and more variety.
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Old 07-04-2015, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Placitas, New Mexico
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California has over 800 miles of coastline - everything from calm lagoons to dramatic cliffs (Big Sur). We have both high and low desert, and the tallest mountain the the lower 48 states (Mt. Whitney) in the beautiful Sierra Nevada. We have the biggest and oldest trees in the world (Giant Sequoia, California Redwood, and the Bristlecone Pine). And if you are looking for a beautiful city, look no further than San Francisco (those hills, the Golden Gate). California has some of the most diverse and beautiful natural beauty on the planet - and I didn't even mention Lassen National Park (volcano).
I agree. California has magnificent natural scenery and quite a wide variety. I think it gets not enough attention in this thread.
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Old 07-04-2015, 11:45 AM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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I agree. California has magnificent natural scenery and quite a wide variety. I think it gets not enough attention in this thread.
It's not too bad in this thread. The members here in the world forum are very nice compared to the bashing California gets in its own forum on C-D.
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Old 07-04-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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It's not too bad in this thread. The members here in the world forum are very nice compared to the bashing California gets in its own forum on C-D.
That forum is scary. Lol
Too many aggressive, angry people there.
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