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But that being said, one has to keep in mind that both Russia and Ukraine have been industrialized countries already by the beginning of the last century. They industrialized on their own, ( unlike the typical third world countries, that are not capable of such thing.) I.e. along with the "third world countries" features Russia/Ukraine share the features of the first world countries, so they can't be put into the same category as the third world countries by definition.
Do you consider Brazil to be a third world country? By the year 1920, Brazil had lots of factories, most owned by local businessmen. Still, people have been calling Brazil a third world country for many decades.
If you want an example of a third world country I have one for you -- Brazil. Nowhere in Ukraine will you see the kind of substandard living conditions that you see in favelas all over Brazil. Brazil has a literacy rate of 91.3%; Ukraine 99.7%. I could go on.
Have you ever been inside a favela in Brazil?
You have no idea what is inside a favela in 2015. In some favelas of Rio, there is better offer of products and services for the consumers than in many neighborhoods of Kiev.
Anyway, less than 7% of Brazil's populations live in favelas, according to the most recent data.
And if you don't like the per capita GDP, and prefer to check the HDI (Human Development Index), the HDI of Brazil is 0.744, and the HDI of Ukraine is 0.734
You have no idea what is inside a favela in 2015. In some favelas of Rio, there is better offer of products and services for the consumers than in many neighborhoods of Kiev.
Anyway, less than 7% of Brazil's populations live in favelas, according to the most recent data.
And if you don't like the per capita GDP, and prefer to check the HDI (Human Development Index), the HDI of Brazil is 0.744, and the HDI of Ukraine is 0.734
I went on a tour of Rocinha when I was in Rio in 2010 and while I'll admit it wasn't as bad as I expected I can still say with confidence that almost no one in Ukraine (a country I know quite well) lives like that.
And what does availability of goods have to do anything? There are nowadays fancy shopping malls all over sub-Saharan Africa selling anything your heart desires. Does that mean it's no longer third world?
Better indicators if a country is whatever world it is are literacy rate, infant mortality rate, availability of education and drinking water, sanitation and so on.
Lots of faults in your argument. If literacy rate rate counted, Costa Rica would be more first world than the USA. Infant mortality rate is strongly tied to urbanity, with many more infants surviving where they are geographically close to medical facilities, and the best rates in city-states like Monaco, Bermuda and Singapore.. Same goes for availability of education and drinking water. All other thins being equal, countries that have a high urban population have much better rankings on those scales than those that are almost entirely rural.
If Ukraine is not third world, then you can not dare to call Colombia, Peru, or Namibia as "third world countries".
I would say a many South American nations are in better shape than Ukraine. Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Colombia would all be places I would choose to live way before Ukraine. The term 3rd world is usually used to describe some of the nations of Africa or South Asia that have absolutely terrible conditions or even a totally failed state like Somalia. The Americas best candidate for third world status is Haiti. Most of South America does not qualify IMO for that description nor does anywhere in Europe. However that stupid war in Ukraine is working on putting Ukraine in that position.
. The Americas best candidate for third world status is Haiti. Most of South America does not qualify IMO for that description nor does anywhere in Europe.
Your right, but I would say that with the exception of Panama and Costa Rica, Central America is also very third world.
By reading this thread it's clear we need to redefine the world regions. What once was applicable seems totally outdated nowadays.
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