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Old 10-23-2015, 09:52 PM
 
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Chinese dissidents accuse UK of 'shameful' clampdown on Xi protests
Shao Jiang, 47, was manhandled and arrested for peacefully protesting by stepping in front of Xi's motorcade on Wednesday evening ahead of a lavish London reception for the Chinese leader, according to fellow dissidents Wang Dan and Wu'er Kaixi.

Shao's home was raided and his computer equipment seized, said Wang and Wu'er, who like Shao were part of the student-led democracy movement in Beijing's Tiananmen Square in 1989 which ended in a bloody crackdown by Chinese troops.

At the same protest on Wednesday, two Tibetan women Sonam Choden, 30, and Jamphel Lhamo, 33, were taken away by police for attempting to unfurl Tibetan flags as Xi passed by, the dissidents and the women's lawyer said.
It's great the two big countries keep peace.
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Old 10-24-2015, 01:25 AM
 
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The UK and China are close now.
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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[indent][i]Shao Jiang, 47, was manhandled and arrested for peacefully protesting by stepping in front of Xi's motorcade on Wednesday evening ahead of a lavish London reception for the Chinese leader, according to fellow dissidents Wang Dan and Wu'er Kaixi.

You are not describing UK and China. You are describing a single incident of a single person from China involving a single policeman in the UK, according to fellow dissidents.

Do you have any idea how many Americans were "manhandled and arrested" in the 21st century, in their own country, for peacefully standing on a sidewalk when George W. Bush's motorcades were passing? I bailed one of them out of jail myself. That's what the police do when dignitaries are protested.


(By the way, why did this news report fail to mention the ages of the dissidents? What are they covering up?)
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:09 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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The UK and China are close now.
And long may it continue
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:18 AM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CF8HFerjvLY
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Old 10-25-2015, 07:23 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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I wonder if this is will help travel between the 2 for work?
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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I wonder if this is will help travel between the 2 for work?
Most likely yeah.

The process of getting a visa is already quite easy; you can go through an agent in China and get a valid business visa for a few thousand RMB (maybe 300-600GBP) that will be good for six months to a year. The bigger thing will be the duration of the business visas issues.

About a year ago, the US and China signed a unilateral agreement to provide eachother with ten year visas. About two weeks later, I got one of the first 10-year, unlimited entrance/exit M (business) visas issued to an American, and thousands have followed.

A few months after that, Canada granted Chinese nationals 10-year visas, and China granted them reciprocal 10-year L (tourist) and M (business) visas, though in practice, their requirements are a bit more strict than they are for Americans - I know more Canadian expats in GZ than Americans, but I only know four with ten-year visas, two of them business-owning Chinese-Canadians, while I know a couple dozen Americans with 10-year visas, most of them transient ESL teachers who didn't even ask for it (I own a bar here and am fairly well-connected in the expat community).

Considering that the UK did exactly what the US and Canada did before their citizens got 10-year visas, and it's also spent much of the last year buddying up to China in terms of business, I would be surprised if this didn't follow. Because the US, CAN, and UK have democratic governments that all have policies about transparency, they will usually announce such things some time in advance, while the CCP will give no advance discussion and then have a press release stating that they have changed policy.

So... I'd give it a few days to a few weeks, and UK citizens will be able to get ten-year visas.
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Old 10-25-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: 🇬🇧 In jolly old London! 🇬🇧
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Most likely yeah.

The process of getting a visa is already quite easy; you can go through an agent in China and get a valid business visa for a few thousand RMB (maybe 300-600GBP) that will be good for six months to a year. The bigger thing will be the duration of the business visas issues.

About a year ago, the US and China signed a unilateral agreement to provide eachother with ten year visas. About two weeks later, I got one of the first 10-year, unlimited entrance/exit M (business) visas issued to an American, and thousands have followed.

A few months after that, Canada granted Chinese nationals 10-year visas, and China granted them reciprocal 10-year L (tourist) and M (business) visas, though in practice, their requirements are a bit more strict than they are for Americans - I know more Canadian expats in GZ than Americans, but I only know four with ten-year visas, two of them business-owning Chinese-Canadians, while I know a couple dozen Americans with 10-year visas, most of them transient ESL teachers who didn't even ask for it (I own a bar here and am fairly well-connected in the expat community).

Considering that the UK did exactly what the US and Canada did before their citizens got 10-year visas, and it's also spent much of the last year buddying up to China in terms of business, I would be surprised if this didn't follow. Because the US, CAN, and UK have democratic governments that all have policies about transparency, they will usually announce such things some time in advance, while the CCP will give no advance discussion and then have a press release stating that they have changed policy.

So... I'd give it a few days to a few weeks, and UK citizens will be able to get ten-year visas.
Outstanding post thank you
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Old 01-14-2016, 02:53 AM
 
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UK will be in China territory.
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Old 01-14-2016, 05:59 AM
 
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UK will be in China territory.
What does this mean??
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